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by now most people are aware

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of a local family in Las Vegas coming

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face to face with what they believe were

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100 percent not human

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we are talking about eight to ten foot

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tall entities which apparently landed

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in the backyard of their Las Vegas home

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and which prompted them to call the

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they were described as towering nearly

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10 feet tall

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alien looking Big Shiny eyes

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that's the 9-1-1 call that police

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received

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and since then things have gotten even

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weirder news stations have reported on

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the event

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it has gathered the attention

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of ufologists worldwide

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and given the time there is a lot going

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on we recently had a mass UFO sighting

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with footage caught in

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Northwest Vegas as well I got the

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individual who gathered the best video

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footage of that particular Vegas Mass

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sighting onto the podcast and although

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people around the valley got great

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footage Scots was out of control I

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recommend you listen to the podcast with

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this is a similar situation a nearby

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same part of the general vicinity of Las

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and today we are going to have the

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investigator who in my opinion has

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delved deepest down the rabbit hole of

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this alien extraterrestrial looking

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an event which has everyone's attention

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right now

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we have Eric The Awakening man

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he's delved way into the rabbit hole and

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we're going to get into all that and a

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buckle up for a strange ride into 8 to

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come Blast Off In My Time Machine sir I

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Eric The Awakening man welcome to the

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hero paranormal podcast Ryan good good

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to talk to you again we've been talking

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all morning and

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uh man it's it's hot again it's hot

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again it's summertime and it's already

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hot buddy I mean I don't get excited

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very often maybe a handful of stories

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that have come down the pipe and this

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this toy we're going to talk about today

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uh I'm getting Goosebumps right now

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because uh I I believe

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99.9 because I wasn't there that if I

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was actually there I'd go 100 but I'm

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99.9 that what we're going to talk about

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today is a real story that really

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happened and uh we may never know all

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the facts that we could present to the

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public to that would uh substantiate or

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verify our beliefs but but no one's

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going to convince me that nothing didn't

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happen there

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and that's what I love about you I think

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you've delved the deepest down this

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Rabbit Hole so far I mean I know that

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this has the world Ablaze with curiosity

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right now but you're always exploring

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great new stories and places where they

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take place and you are literally

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backtracking this entire event and

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following it so to speak from the

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beginning because there is a lot to

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explore here where should we kick off

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lot and you and I both know that there's

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still a lot more to learn so this this

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people that listen to this are going to

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probably go well you guys aren't really

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telling me enough yet to really bite

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onto this complete but we will have more

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but we're gonna we're gonna label we got

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on the table right now let's let's start

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with uh okay so obviously what we're

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talking about here uh was breaking news

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humping crashed in Vegas

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some people think who I believe know

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really the truth uh that it didn't crash

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um so I don't have the evidence

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physical evidence to prove one or the

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other but it's my belief that an object

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around 11 30 on April 29th the police

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were called all that is out there on the

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on the media the the families got the

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sun angel 18 years old has got to set up

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a YouTube page put out a little eight

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minute video uh there's there's of

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course George Knapp Channel 8. Doug Papa

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channel uh I'm not sure exactly how he

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found the story but he was the one to

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get the story first he broke the story

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it on his show and he's done the boots

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on the ground leg work so but of course

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slant it and uh so I haven't had a

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chance to talk to Doug yet so by the

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time we have another conversation about

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this we'll have even more information

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hear what he's learned then maybe we

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could put this puzzle together better

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okay Eric so on the police body cam

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footage it shows a date of May 1st 2023

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this one there's been enough time that's

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lapsed for things to be cleaned up so to

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speak I've seen and you've seen a lot of

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evidence online that this occurred on

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the 29th what do you think has happened

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that we were trying to put this puzzle

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that there were some meteors uh showers

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lean towards likely that that big ball

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of light that was streaking through the

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sky that was captured on the body cam

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object that landed in the backyard of

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this homes but I mean we don't know yet

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because it was bright enough that the

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body cam footage saw it in fact enough

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the location after seeing something fall

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from the sky hearing the uh Boom for

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lack of a better word in the backyard or

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got into a front-end loader or a

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forklift in the backyard and tried to

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naked looking and the family was scared

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to death what do you make of that do you

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at first when I saw the story

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an initial glance at it was that uh I'm

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not buying this story that was my first

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impression

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that I thought well it just didn't add

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up I mean it's it's just too fantastical

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researcher uh that okay before I just

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turn my back on this and and just move

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on like you know or talk or talk trash

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about the story I'm gonna make some

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phone calls so uh I made a call to my

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one of my sources and uh I said hey I've

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had you heard about this story

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and he said yeah and I says well can you

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please what can you share with me

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and we'll we'll talk about that uh in

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this conversation today but it was as a

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that uh that suddenly I was no longer

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changed my mind I'm all in on this story

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because my sources I trust in that

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they're very good sources

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okay and it's like I'm not saying this

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as as to like brag or just kind of

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boasts personally I don't really care

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about getting any credit on this I'm

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just trying to find the truth and share

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it with you and and the people that are

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Rewards or a pat on the back or add a

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visited that we're still being visited

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whether I mean maybe we're not even

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being visited maybe they're here maybe

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they they live in the mountains of Mount

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Whitney and they like to take cruises

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occasionally you know I'm being silly

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right now but I'm just saying uh you

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know and as far as crash retrievals go

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and vehicles that have that have either

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landed been given to us crashed however

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you want to describe that I'm all in on

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that 100 percent I've done not just

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research that you would find on YouTube

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or the internet or some book or some guy

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that I run into a conference you know I

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I've got excellent sources that get real

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information not not hearsay and an

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opinion so I I do believe that we've had

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crash retrievals I do believe that we've

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got bodies whether there's a live I

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don't think so but I don't know uh

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whether where they're being stored I

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don't know I can speculate but that's

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I'm not here to speculate so I'm all in

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on this on the reality that that this

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has happened before I mean it happened

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in Brazil in Virginia James Fox did a an

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excellent documentary yeah you bought a

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vehicle that crashed out there you know

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and then the bodies and they're not the

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bodies the the creatures in the whole

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nine yards so I mean I believe that

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story so some people want to deny it but

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it's I don't think it is there's just

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too much evidence there there's no way

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it could be a conspiracy where all those

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people got together from all these

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different agencies and it's anyway going

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on and on and on but that so what this

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story reminds me of this Vegas story is

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is kind of similar in some ways to the

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Brazil story different but similar so uh

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so I believe it's possible so anyway so

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yeah I do think

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now look at I

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it's easy to think that it crashed I

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don't think it crashed I think it landed

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okay and I think at first when I saw the

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circle that was a picture was taken at 1

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47 a.m of the circle in the backyard I

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thought this doesn't make sense I mean

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the thing crashed and it's just a circle

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that doesn't add up well again I don't

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think it crashed I think it landed

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and and that's what that circle is and

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and I also think well and we'll go back

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to what happened during the time that it

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was on the ground but I think that

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somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to

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25 minutes between the time that that

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thing landed and these creatures got out

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of this out of the spaceship we'll call

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it a spaceship and and we're on the

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property but that this thing lifted off

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and took off

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so and and I'm just going to say it

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right now uh I've got access to radar

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information

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and this thing was tracked on radar

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so you know that's what it is so let's

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go from there I'm I'm I'm down and I'm

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so glad that you mentioned the uh James

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Fox scenario and case from Brazil

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because many in the field have related

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that scenario uh as possibly being

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demonic now the descriptions were very

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similar and you know 100 percent they

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were big eyes big mouth

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um intimidating and I I don't think it's

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wrong to call it a spaceship the

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dimensions are correct you can see that

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it left a mark and it landed in my

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opinion as well because it landed

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exactly in the middle of the yard I

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think if this would have been a crash

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scenario there's no telling where it

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would have landed

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and the witnesses

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all pretty much agree you know this is

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not BS this they

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all of the interviews line up now this

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brings me to the next case which I think

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is very important which is the body cam

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footage of the police would not allow

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anyone to see video beyond the property

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limits which I have to sort of call BS

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on because we all watch Cops on TV and

372
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they go from yard to yard jumping fence

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lines they don't seem to care about your

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your personal private property when it

375
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comes to getting these these footage

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segments yet in this case there is

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absolute absolutely zero that is

378
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witnessed from

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the backyard do you think there is a

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reason for this Eric

381
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yeah I mean uh another thing going back

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to James Fox again uh I'm on Twitter I'm

383
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following what people are saying and

384
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James Fox tweeted yesterday

385
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uh which he normally doesn't do this

386
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James Fox is not a tweeter kind of guy

387
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that's out there gets involved in these

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stories and communicates about them with

389
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with people on Twitter that's not what

390
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he does he's a professional filmmaker

391
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he's out there working he don't have

392
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time to be playing games on Twitter but

393
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he said that he's getting calls that the

394
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FBI and I'm this is quote that the FBI

395
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is is you know caught got a hold of the

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police and they're scrubbing these body

397
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cam videos so this is the call that he

398
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gets now I don't have evidence that

399
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that's what happened and I don't have

400
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evidence that James Fox is telling the

401
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truth personally I think James in my

402
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book James Fox is a highly credible uh

403
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researcher filmmaker I he has there's no

404
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reason for him to just jump on Twitter

405
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and make up a story he he doesn't need

406
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that Fame he doesn't need that baggage

407
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he's doing quite well on his own without

408
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jumping in those so I tend to believe

409
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that story so and then and then part two

410
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to why I believe the story is my source

411
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says

412
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uh well we're going to kind of skip

413
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forward and we'll go back to the event

414
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on in the backyard but my source says

415
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that uh the very next morning after the

416
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event

417
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uh we'll just call them agents okay I'm

418
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not going to say what type of Agents uh

419
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two agents went to the house or the

420
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event occurred

421
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uh the boy angel was not home apparently

422
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so they interviewed the father and the

423
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brother and the son which or the brother

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of angel

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and uh

426
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as a result of that uh you know from

427
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there I don't know exactly what the

428
00:18:23,090 --> 00:18:20,760
conversation was now of course I don't

429
00:18:26,750 --> 00:18:23,100
have the details of that but apparently

430
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I was told uh through

431
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I'm not kind of word this in such a way

432
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I don't get my anybody in trouble here

433
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that when the agents went back to the

434
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base

435
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another agent in conversation with these

436
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agents that did the investigation

437
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relayed to my source that when they went

438
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when they left the house

439
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after interviewing the father

440
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going towards their vehicle to get in

441
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the vehicle and head back to the base

442
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the neighbors okay uh I believe it was a

443
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woman and her daughter

444
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came across the street

445
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to and and I'm they were the agents were

446
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under the impression that the the lady

447
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and the daughter thought that they were

448
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police officers

449
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so they assumed that these guys were

450
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police officers so they wanted to share

451
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what they saw

452
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to with these agents thinking that there

453
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are police officers so they tell the

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agents that we we saw it

455
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we saw it we saw it we saw the creatures

456
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but at first we didn't know that we

457
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didn't know there were creatures we

458
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didn't know what they were we thought

459
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they were we thought it was the kids

460
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across the street playing on stilts

461
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so now going back to the Brazil incident

462
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the these that those creatures over

463
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there were smaller creatures these

464
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creatures apparent according to Angel

465
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were eight to ten feet tall these are

466
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very large creatures the lady says that

467
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she saw them from across the street now

468
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uh I know we're kind of skipping around

469
00:20:05,450 --> 00:20:03,240
here but one of the boots on the ground

470
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research is another source of mine

471
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was able to go and talk to these uh

472
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people and

473
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apparently since the event nobody's

474
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really talking anymore so this this

475
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weeks of you know Men In Black cover-up

476
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kind of stories where you know you're

477
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not to discuss this with anybody kind of

478
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that's the vibe I'm getting right now

479
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and that's and to me so this happened on

480
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the 29th here we are June 8th or 9th

481
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whatever today is and the story just

482
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kind of broke here recently so basically

483
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almost a whole month or three weeks went

484
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by before we even heard about the story

485
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so and now this is this is a theory that

486
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I have it's I don't have the actual

487
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evidence to prove this I might get

488
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evidence at some point but I think that

489
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this thing was scrubbed

490
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and I think and I don't I'm pretty

491
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confident although I hope I'm wrong that

492
00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:00,360
we may never know the whole truth about

493
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such good points and the scrubbing seems

494
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very evident I also uh reached out to

495
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George Knapp and he validated and has

496
00:21:22,909 --> 00:21:20,029
the family members saw men in dark

497
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sunglasses with government plates

498
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uh this was the last conversations

499
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before like as you said many people have

500
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been reaching out and they have since

501
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:33,840
gone silent now not to get too far off

502
00:21:40,190 --> 00:21:37,919
on a tangent of the timeline and these

503
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things possibly looking somewhat demonic

504
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:43,520
however that this all took place

505
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depending on when it really doesn't

506
00:21:51,230 --> 00:21:48,299
matter because we have Wall purge's

507
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night which as many know May 1st is

508
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Beltane and while purchase night is

509
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April 30th to May 1st a very small

510
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timeline a very small window

511
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where it is said in mythology that

512
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demons sometimes make their presence

513
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known and also

514
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it is the night when it is said that

515
00:22:18,289 --> 00:22:15,659
witches come out and uh

516
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make their presence known so I think

517
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,860
it's interesting that this took place

518
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:21,600
and there's a lot of there's a lot of

519
00:22:27,770 --> 00:22:24,000
argument about when it took place but as

520
00:22:30,289 --> 00:22:27,780
near as we can tell this was from April

521
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30th more or less to May 1st if I'm not

522
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:33,900
mistaken possibly even the 29th when it

523
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:36,000
originated from its original destination

524
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so

525
00:22:42,649 --> 00:22:40,080
you know is this this is supposed to be

526
00:22:47,090 --> 00:22:42,659
Satan's lost hurray before the dawn of

527
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May which uh if you want to get into the

528
00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:50,460
roots of the occult and the timeline of

529
00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:52,740
the actual calendar day it happened

530
00:23:01,010 --> 00:22:56,700
right there I believe 11 50.

531
00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:01,020
to uh it was 11 57 or when the call came

532
00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:03,240
in 11 58 if I'm not mistaken or 11 it

533
00:23:07,730 --> 00:23:04,860
might have been no excuse me my bad 11

534
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:07,740
30 11 28 11 30 something it was right

535
00:23:15,230 --> 00:23:12,000
around 11 30ish yeah it yeah it's right

536
00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:15,240
there I mean it is right there

537
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:17,220
you're bringing something up that uh

538
00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:19,200
isn't it's an interesting Theory but

539
00:23:22,669 --> 00:23:20,580
there are synchronicities and

540
00:23:25,010 --> 00:23:22,679
coincidences that you you can't just

541
00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:25,020
discount off the top I mean no that's

542
00:23:29,690 --> 00:23:26,940
something that's got to be part of the

543
00:23:31,730 --> 00:23:29,700
equation to consider as to what what you

544
00:23:33,230 --> 00:23:31,740
know again we we will probably never be

545
00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:33,240
able to prove anything that we're

546
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:35,100
discussing right now but we're having a

547
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,720
conversation about an event that I

548
00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:39,120
believe happened 100 I mean there's

549
00:23:41,930 --> 00:23:40,380
going to be people out there that are

550
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:41,940
going to there's always a handful of

551
00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:43,919
people out there that are gonna you know

552
00:23:47,870 --> 00:23:46,440
that for whatever reason they just want

553
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:47,880
to be they just don't you just want to

554
00:23:51,289 --> 00:23:49,980
be debunkers you know most of most the

555
00:23:53,630 --> 00:23:51,299
bunkers matter of fact almost all the

556
00:23:55,370 --> 00:23:53,640
bunkers really are not researchers they

557
00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:55,380
don't do any actual they think they're

558
00:23:58,010 --> 00:23:56,760
doing research when they go on the

559
00:24:00,409 --> 00:23:58,020
internet that's that's then that's

560
00:24:02,029 --> 00:24:00,419
resource that's not research research is

561
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,039
when you have contact sources and

562
00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:04,559
methods when when you go there you talk

563
00:24:09,289 --> 00:24:06,780
to people you you go boots on the ground

564
00:24:11,630 --> 00:24:09,299
you travel you talk you know you that's

565
00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:11,640
research so I get a little frustrated

566
00:24:15,289 --> 00:24:13,980
with these people out there that you

567
00:24:18,289 --> 00:24:15,299
watch a video

568
00:24:21,230 --> 00:24:18,299
and see this and they've looked at it

569
00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:21,240
maybe 10 of the information and then and

570
00:24:24,649 --> 00:24:22,620
then now they're just flipping off at

571
00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:24,659
the mouth about oh this is this and it

572
00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:26,760
was it was a meteor and it was this and

573
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,740
this kid's hoax and I mean I'm just so

574
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,480
tired of those people because really the

575
00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:32,880
old the kind of work that you and I are

576
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:34,260
doing and others that are actually

577
00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:35,760
spending their time trying to figure

578
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,700
this phenomena out it kind of It kind of

579
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,559
puts it makes it more difficult for us

580
00:24:45,289 --> 00:24:42,960
and I think for them it's it's more of

581
00:24:47,390 --> 00:24:45,299
an ego trip maybe I don't really

582
00:24:48,770 --> 00:24:47,400
actually think they're that stupid I

583
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:48,780
think it's kind of I just want attention

584
00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:51,240
and since I don't have the time to be an

585
00:24:54,770 --> 00:24:53,340
actual researcher I'm just going to be a

586
00:24:56,810 --> 00:24:54,780
debunker because anybody can be a

587
00:24:58,190 --> 00:24:56,820
debunker you know I mean it's not you

588
00:24:59,570 --> 00:24:58,200
know you don't even have to have any

589
00:25:01,490 --> 00:24:59,580
credentials or credibility you don't

590
00:25:03,409 --> 00:25:01,500
even have to be smart you know what I'm

591
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:03,419
saying so I have issue with those people

592
00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:06,960
I agree and I argue that you know this

593
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,419
this the more when you do the real

594
00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:12,000
research it becomes more intriguing and

595
00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:14,760
as you said the puzzle pieces start to

596
00:25:20,510 --> 00:25:17,220
actually form an image of what took

597
00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:20,520
place where you that doesn't happen in a

598
00:25:27,649 --> 00:25:23,640
case where it's easily debunked and uh

599
00:25:29,810 --> 00:25:27,659
there was a recent Vegas Mass sighting

600
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:29,820
of a UFO where multiple people across

601
00:25:36,529 --> 00:25:33,200
the valley got footage saw the craft

602
00:25:39,049 --> 00:25:36,539
materialized and dematerialized and I

603
00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:39,059
was lucky enough to have Scott who in my

604
00:25:44,090 --> 00:25:41,940
opinion got the best footage of it and

605
00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:44,100
was also nearest so it wasn't you know

606
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:45,720
he was closest it was easy to get the

607
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,440
best footage but he described what he

608
00:25:53,649 --> 00:25:51,840
saw that night and his footages what

609
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:53,659
actually made it to Coast to Coast AM

610
00:25:58,669 --> 00:25:56,400
and he seems to think that there was

611
00:26:01,789 --> 00:25:58,679
something about this area of the valley

612
00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:01,799
or Las Vegas that made this location

613
00:26:07,370 --> 00:26:04,860
easier to see the craft and we have a

614
00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:07,380
very similar situation with this

615
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,900
particular event and I think it's

616
00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:12,000
interesting because we have former Air

617
00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:15,480
Force officials two of which are uh

618
00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:18,600
Tommy Bland and Nelson Pacheco who

619
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:20,700
believe fallen angels have taken on the

620
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:23,520
appearance of extraterrestrials and then

621
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:26,940
we also have recently the notification

622
00:26:33,169 --> 00:26:30,000
that top Aerospace scientists suspect

623
00:26:35,090 --> 00:26:33,179
UFOs are biblical time machines these

624
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:35,100
are all very strange things for

625
00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:38,640
government officials to say when it's

626
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:40,620
basically been kind of the status quo

627
00:26:45,049 --> 00:26:43,440
for so long I mean this this time in

628
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:45,059
general the last couple of months have

629
00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:48,659
been groundbreaking for uaps and UFOs

630
00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:50,820
what are your thoughts about the timing

631
00:26:55,850 --> 00:26:53,100
of this I mean it just seems hot

632
00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:55,860
oh yeah it's uh I was trying to lay low

633
00:27:01,010 --> 00:26:58,620
to be quite honest with you I I was

634
00:27:04,269 --> 00:27:01,020
uh you know you know I was up at your

635
00:27:06,529 --> 00:27:04,279
place uh last month and you know

636
00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:06,539
I'm just I've been trying to kind of

637
00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:08,940
just take a break because it's

638
00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:11,700
exhausting to do this you know and and

639
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,740
if the thing is it's like you're you're

640
00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:15,600
in it you're in a haystack looking for a

641
00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:16,440
needle

642
00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:18,960
and when you go into the haystack you

643
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:20,400
know chances are you're not going to

644
00:27:24,169 --> 00:27:21,900
find the needle you just already know

645
00:27:25,789 --> 00:27:24,179
that but but you know there's a needle

646
00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:25,799
in there somewhere at least you highly

647
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,260
use you highly suspect there's a needle

648
00:27:32,029 --> 00:27:30,480
in that Haystack so if you've got the

649
00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:32,039
time and the energy and the

650
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:34,140
determination you'll just start looking

651
00:27:39,289 --> 00:27:37,919
for it in in this particular story uh I

652
00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:39,299
think there's a needle in the haystack

653
00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:41,640
and I think we found it now I don't know

654
00:27:45,049 --> 00:27:42,900
if we're going to be able to prove that

655
00:27:46,669 --> 00:27:45,059
that needle got there by aliens

656
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:46,679
but there's certainly a needle in the

657
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:47,880
haystack

658
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,340
um but but let's go back to so how this

659
00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:52,320
all started so

660
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:55,020
um according to my source about uh you

661
00:27:58,430 --> 00:27:56,700
know I'm not going to name all the

662
00:28:00,409 --> 00:27:58,440
information about all that but I'm just

663
00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:00,419
going to say this that

664
00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:02,940
um it was cited there was an object that

665
00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:05,700
same night earlier before 11 30. I don't

666
00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:07,260
know how much earlier but around the

667
00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:09,720
time frame just before it landed in Las

668
00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:13,740
Vegas an object was cited by eye and

669
00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:16,200
tracked by radar coming from the Bishop

670
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:17,940
California area which is Eastern

671
00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:18,799
California

672
00:28:24,289 --> 00:28:21,419
then when you go from there towards

673
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:24,299
Vegas okay we're talking just a few hour

674
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:26,240
drive more or less

675
00:28:32,990 --> 00:28:29,820
if you're going towards the Utah Vegas

676
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:33,000
border okay there's a town called

677
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:34,640
Mesquite

678
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,100
this object I'm told was tracked going

679
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:41,159
towards Mesquite it got to the the area

680
00:28:47,149 --> 00:28:42,960
where right on the border there of Utah

681
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,159
and Nevada and it turned around

682
00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:50,159
after it turned around I'm told that it

683
00:28:54,649 --> 00:28:52,440
literally went right across or over

684
00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:54,659
Nellis Air Force Base

685
00:28:59,210 --> 00:28:56,520
now think about this for a say let's

686
00:29:01,130 --> 00:28:59,220
just say that that's true okay and

687
00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:01,140
they're tracking this thing

688
00:29:06,169 --> 00:29:03,900
and I believe that we have technology

689
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,179
that if we want to bring something like

690
00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:08,159
this down we could now I'm not

691
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:09,779
suggesting that this thing was shot down

692
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,600
at any point I don't know but but it's

693
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:15,360
but I'm telling you that I believe that

694
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:17,700
they knew that this thing was in this in

695
00:29:23,330 --> 00:29:20,880
the sky moving across Nevada

696
00:29:25,010 --> 00:29:23,340
and it went to that that house over

697
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:25,020
there and and I'm not going to give the

698
00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:27,240
address even though I have it uh in Las

699
00:29:32,990 --> 00:29:31,080
Vegas and uh and it landed so why did it

700
00:29:35,389 --> 00:29:33,000
land there

701
00:29:36,769 --> 00:29:35,399
what do you think why there what would

702
00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:36,779
you guess why would you guess that it

703
00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:38,700
would land there of all places

704
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,659
the location looks ideal for a short

705
00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:44,880
term fix

706
00:29:51,529 --> 00:29:48,539
um it's it's a very well organized

707
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,539
backyard and if I was having engine

708
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,000
trouble or I needed a place to put

709
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,640
things down that seemed to be

710
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:58,559
um occulted from all the rest of the

711
00:30:02,029 --> 00:29:59,760
surroundings that's where I would put

712
00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:02,039
something down

713
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:04,140
you know and you live there you live in

714
00:30:08,330 --> 00:30:05,760
Vegas you I'm not going to say where you

715
00:30:09,889 --> 00:30:08,340
live but I know that your house is I

716
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,899
mean I could probably go from where that

717
00:30:13,490 --> 00:30:11,520
thing landed to your house in probably

718
00:30:15,710 --> 00:30:13,500
five or ten minutes

719
00:30:24,649 --> 00:30:15,720
right it's in the same general vicinity

720
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,409
big news it was the first time that I

721
00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:29,760
had that I'd seen uh during the video

722
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:33,480
report screenshots uh from Google Earth

723
00:30:38,930 --> 00:30:35,340
of the house

724
00:30:41,330 --> 00:30:38,940
of the street of the area but of course

725
00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:41,340
no street signs no mention of the street

726
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:43,500
no mention of the area we just know that

727
00:30:48,649 --> 00:30:45,960
it was in Las Vegas so I called you this

728
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:48,659
morning and I'm trying to I'm contacting

729
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:50,520
my even my sources don't know the

730
00:30:54,830 --> 00:30:52,640
address yet at this point this morning

731
00:30:57,950 --> 00:30:54,840
they were working on trying to get the

732
00:31:01,250 --> 00:30:57,960
address for me so I'm as I was impatient

733
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:01,260
so I called you and I said where this is

734
00:31:05,870 --> 00:31:02,640
where I'm told

735
00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:05,880
uh that this thing happened and then it

736
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:07,500
was Sunny Hills or something like that

737
00:31:11,389 --> 00:31:10,020
or sunny Valley or Spring Valley is it

738
00:31:14,210 --> 00:31:11,399
called Spring Valley or Spring Hills

739
00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:14,220
over yeah Spring Valley correct Spring

740
00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:16,020
Valley so I was told that it was in the

741
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:17,940
Spring Valley area

742
00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:20,399
on Google Earth

743
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,640
owing like block by block trying to find

744
00:31:27,769 --> 00:31:25,679
what I could any kind of clue of where

745
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:27,779
this might have been and then I called

746
00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:30,240
you and you said no it's not there it's

747
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,279
over here so I'm not going to say it on

748
00:31:36,169 --> 00:31:34,320
my show right now no and that leads that

749
00:31:38,210 --> 00:31:36,179
leads to the deception we're finding

750
00:31:39,169 --> 00:31:38,220
this over and over again but please go

751
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:39,179
on

752
00:31:43,310 --> 00:31:41,880
yeah yeah you're yeah so yeah it seems

753
00:31:45,049 --> 00:31:43,320
like you know there's some diversion

754
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:45,059
going on here no doubt I mean oh it was

755
00:31:49,310 --> 00:31:47,220
it could have been a meteor or a crashed

756
00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:49,320
you know there's they're not they don't

757
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:50,700
want to say Atlanta they don't want to

758
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:52,080
say where it happened they just want to

759
00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:54,000
give us you know they can't totally lie

760
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:55,380
because then it looks like they're lying

761
00:31:59,570 --> 00:31:56,880
I'm not again I shouldn't say that

762
00:32:02,350 --> 00:31:59,580
anybody's lying but it but this is how

763
00:32:04,909 --> 00:32:02,360
cover-ups work so anyway so uh so I did

764
00:32:06,850 --> 00:32:04,919
based on the clue that you gave me I

765
00:32:09,889 --> 00:32:06,860
went back on Google Earth

766
00:32:12,769 --> 00:32:09,899
and I started scrolling that area

767
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:12,779
and there there's a specific clue in

768
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:14,399
those pictures that were on the

769
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:16,860
Georgetown video that made it kind of

770
00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:19,980
easy for me to find okay

771
00:32:24,049 --> 00:32:22,020
it took me about five minutes once I

772
00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:24,059
scanned that area I found I found the

773
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:26,580
house and then I had to then I had to

774
00:32:30,529 --> 00:32:28,080
figure out figure out what street that

775
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:30,539
was on and the information you gave me

776
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:32,460
helped greatly so that was able to take

777
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,120
that information I I found the house I

778
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:38,720
you know figured out the address

779
00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:42,000
that's real reason that's real research

780
00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:43,620
right there I mean that's what I'm

781
00:32:48,350 --> 00:32:46,020
talking about yeah yeah

782
00:32:51,049 --> 00:32:48,360
so I mean uh you know and I talked to my

783
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:51,059
other friend about this who's uh retired

784
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:53,039
uh he's not uh

785
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:54,960
it's not really a source but he's a

786
00:32:59,149 --> 00:32:56,580
confidant that I can go to with

787
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:59,159
information to try to verify and vet

788
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:01,200
he's kind of my conscience he's like

789
00:33:04,490 --> 00:33:02,940
well hold on before you jump to any

790
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:04,500
conclusions you know he's like did you

791
00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:06,120
do this did you look at this and I mean

792
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,159
he's he's not really a skeptic but he's

793
00:33:12,529 --> 00:33:10,559
the guy that's just making sure that I

794
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:12,539
cross the t's and Dot the eyes as I'm

795
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:14,279
going down this path here that I don't

796
00:33:18,169 --> 00:33:16,080
get ahead of myself he says you know

797
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,179
don't don't just put out what you want

798
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:20,159
to believe put out what you what you

799
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,960
learn and let people decide for

800
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:23,519
themselves what they want to believe and

801
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,480
that's what I'm trying to do here

802
00:33:27,889 --> 00:33:26,159
although I have my beliefs I'm not

803
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:27,899
trying to convince anybody right now

804
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:29,760
that this is what happened but I believe

805
00:33:36,889 --> 00:33:33,600
it is what happened so anyway so uh

806
00:33:40,009 --> 00:33:36,899
so yeah so we got the house uh you know

807
00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:40,019
I I'm not gonna go knock on the door

808
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:42,480
okay I'm not going to do that uh there's

809
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:44,279
there we you and I have discussed you

810
00:33:47,810 --> 00:33:45,600
know what we're going to do when we can

811
00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:47,820
to see if we can uh establish some sort

812
00:33:52,610 --> 00:33:49,559
of communication through our through our

813
00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:52,620
channels and there needs to be follow-up

814
00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:54,840
on this I don't know how easy that

815
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,279
follow-up's gonna be and that's where

816
00:34:00,649 --> 00:33:58,559
the hard work's coming in and I've been

817
00:34:02,509 --> 00:34:00,659
doing so far it's taken a lot of time

818
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:02,519
but it's not really hard work the hard

819
00:34:06,889 --> 00:34:05,100
work is when I get to Vegas and and then

820
00:34:08,690 --> 00:34:06,899
we really try to dig up and see what we

821
00:34:11,329 --> 00:34:08,700
can find that's above and beyond what we

822
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,339
know right now so uh anyway this so

823
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:13,679
that's where I'm at with that and I mean

824
00:34:16,849 --> 00:34:15,119
I know it's going to sound weird but

825
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:16,859
some people like you and I like living

826
00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:20,760
in reality and going and looking the the

827
00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:24,060
situation in you know on site and you

828
00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:25,980
are headed to Vegas we are going to walk

829
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:27,720
through and uh

830
00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:29,520
look at this

831
00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:31,740
um literally in our own backyard so to

832
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:33,960
speak but it's important to also mention

833
00:34:39,169 --> 00:34:36,480
the synchronicities and I won't go into

834
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,179
them but you mentioned the flight

835
00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:42,000
trajectories that had been tracked where

836
00:34:51,710 --> 00:34:46,980
this uh purported UAP was said to have

837
00:34:55,129 --> 00:34:51,720
directed or landed later on and what's

838
00:34:58,010 --> 00:34:55,139
odd is this was a location that not only

839
00:34:59,930 --> 00:34:58,020
is it off the beaten path not only is it

840
00:35:01,609 --> 00:34:59,940
somewhere I would never go but it is

841
00:35:05,210 --> 00:35:01,619
somewhere I was planning on going Monday

842
00:35:07,609 --> 00:35:05,220
anyway and this is the type of strange

843
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:07,619
stuff that happens right under our noses

844
00:35:14,270 --> 00:35:10,560
right in front of us when it comes to

845
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,280
UAP uh this this this kind of cosmic

846
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,800
mystery that is impossible my first

847
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:18,960
reaction was like you gotta be kidding

848
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:21,599
me there's no way when you said and I'm

849
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,160
not going to repeat but when you said

850
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:25,440
what you said I just in my mind was

851
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:27,720
thinking this is impossible this could

852
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:30,660
not happen I'm going there Monday wanna

853
00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:34,079
come and that's how research works I

854
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:35,700
mean when you care more about the people

855
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:38,640
that are doing the research than in as

856
00:35:44,089 --> 00:35:42,000
you said the belief or what you want to

857
00:35:47,089 --> 00:35:44,099
propagate online

858
00:35:49,849 --> 00:35:47,099
it literally stands out in front of you

859
00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:49,859
the truth is more easily

860
00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:51,420
available

861
00:35:54,890 --> 00:35:52,980
yeah

862
00:35:56,510 --> 00:35:54,900
all right so let's let's go

863
00:35:58,010 --> 00:35:56,520
let's go

864
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:58,020
uh we're gonna you know I don't have all

865
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:00,000
my notes uh let's get to the backyard

866
00:36:05,810 --> 00:36:03,119
man I mean every in the backyard so so

867
00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:05,820
this is uh now my I have very close

868
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:07,980
friends that are experiencers Eric

869
00:36:12,910 --> 00:36:10,079
Mitchell he is

870
00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:12,920
there is no experiencer that I've met

871
00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:15,960
with or spent time with or lived with

872
00:36:20,990 --> 00:36:18,540
and traveled with that has more

873
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:21,000
credibility than Eric Mitchell I'm not

874
00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:22,440
saying that because he's my friend or

875
00:36:28,089 --> 00:36:23,940
I'm trying to boast about knowing Eric

876
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:28,099
Mitchell uh he had an experience in 2013

877
00:36:35,569 --> 00:36:31,200
multiple Witnesses the experiences

878
00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:35,579
continued multiple Witnesses uh you know

879
00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:39,480
he was unfortunately uh he won't say

880
00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:42,300
this publicly I don't think but I know

881
00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:44,520
that based on what he described happened

882
00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:47,460
to him as a result of the experiences uh

883
00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:49,800
they wanted to shut that down in 2013

884
00:36:54,650 --> 00:36:51,480
they weren't they weren't ready for

885
00:36:55,849 --> 00:36:54,660
disclosure yeah 14 years later when they

886
00:36:59,810 --> 00:36:55,859
started

887
00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:02,270
oh well we lost you here let me see if I

888
00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:04,200
can get you back

889
00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:06,180
I hear you do you hear me okay you're

890
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,700
back yeah sorry if you could just repeat

891
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,560
that that was the strangest it started

892
00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:13,200
gurgling and it just cut out

893
00:37:16,430 --> 00:37:15,300
okay can you hear me okay now yep you

894
00:37:19,069 --> 00:37:16,440
sound good

895
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:19,079
all right I'll go back so uh

896
00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:21,119
just the last part just the last part

897
00:37:23,569 --> 00:37:21,960
about

898
00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:23,579
um how they tried to shut this down with

899
00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:24,900
Eric Mitchell

900
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:27,180
oh yeah so um

901
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:30,119
so I'm doing terrible how I say this uh

902
00:37:34,609 --> 00:37:31,859
it's been reported

903
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:34,619
that uh

904
00:37:40,370 --> 00:37:37,760
geez I could say their name

905
00:37:42,829 --> 00:37:40,380
but this particular person is actually

906
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,839
even admitted it very very off the cusp

907
00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:44,400
of an interview that I watched earlier

908
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:45,420
this year

909
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:49,440
that um that that may whoever they are

910
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:51,720
now whether this is some Rogue agency

911
00:37:57,710 --> 00:37:55,440
that's been hired by some unknown uh

912
00:38:01,250 --> 00:37:57,720
intelligence agency now I know people

913
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,260
love to blame the CIA okay but but trust

914
00:38:06,589 --> 00:38:04,079
me there's so many agencies out there in

915
00:38:08,930 --> 00:38:06,599
intelligence I mean John Ramirez did a

916
00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:08,940
presentation not too long ago and it's

917
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:12,060
it's like a pyramid and it's and most

918
00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:13,680
people have no clue

919
00:38:18,650 --> 00:38:15,900
how much how much intelligence agencies

920
00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:18,660
are out there involved in things but of

921
00:38:23,569 --> 00:38:21,300
course the CIO always gets blamed but in

922
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,579
this particular I don't know who hired

923
00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:25,680
these people who train these people or

924
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,960
who they answer to but there are people

925
00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:29,040
out there

926
00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:31,380
I don't know about right now today but

927
00:38:36,109 --> 00:38:34,140
certainly in 2013 that if they want to

928
00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:36,119
shut somebody up or they want to

929
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:37,700
intimidate somebody

930
00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:41,280
that that's a reality that occurred

931
00:38:46,130 --> 00:38:43,560
and it's occurred more than once with

932
00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:46,140
with more than one person these people

933
00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:48,119
this is what kind of keeps the

934
00:38:54,349 --> 00:38:51,540
experiencers you know off

935
00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:54,359
you don't see too many people on radio

936
00:38:59,390 --> 00:38:57,660
interviews or on Twitter spaces talking

937
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,400
about this stuff because they're afraid

938
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:01,440
and I get it

939
00:39:04,670 --> 00:39:03,300
um so it and you know this kind of goes

940
00:39:06,589 --> 00:39:04,680
towards what we're talking about right

941
00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:06,599
now with this object that land in the

942
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:10,020
backyard and these two tall creatures

943
00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:12,240
that or we know at least one I'm here

944
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,740
I'm hearing there were two but I don't

945
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,839
know but at least one of them was seen

946
00:39:20,089 --> 00:39:17,520
uh maybe two

947
00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:20,099
um so you know and now all of a sudden

948
00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:23,400
uh the family's not talking

949
00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:25,800
and and the kids not talking

950
00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:27,960
and and George Knapp can't get an

951
00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:28,980
interview

952
00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:32,040
and Doug Papa who broke the story uh

953
00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:33,960
suddenly now he's having trouble uh it

954
00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:35,820
appears to uh furthering the

955
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:38,760
communication although he he was the he

956
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,940
was the only one that I know of that

957
00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:43,920
actually got to interview Angel the 18

958
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:45,780
year old and that's on his YouTube

959
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:48,720
channel uh uh Doug Papa

960
00:39:54,349 --> 00:39:52,079
um so other but since that time uh these

961
00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:54,359
people are silent so I I really think

962
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:57,780
that um somebody got to him

963
00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:00,240
and you know these people can be very

964
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:02,579
intimidating and these are real people

965
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:04,980
this is not just some hoaxing uh you

966
00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:07,200
know conversation that to try to scam or

967
00:40:10,730 --> 00:40:08,940
intimidate people this is this stuff

968
00:40:12,050 --> 00:40:10,740
really goes on most people have a hard

969
00:40:14,089 --> 00:40:12,060
time believing that but that's that's

970
00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:14,099
how this sort of stuff gets hidden or

971
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:15,240
covered up

972
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:17,520
I'm really glad that you bring this up

973
00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:22,160
Eric because as you're aware uh Scott

974
00:40:26,990 --> 00:40:24,060
something

975
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:27,000
right around this same time frame

976
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:30,240
um given uh the dates and the time frame

977
00:40:35,329 --> 00:40:32,000
and the window that we're talking about

978
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,339
this this same individual who is located

979
00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:36,960
nearby

980
00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:38,760
and has

981
00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:40,920
um I won't give away where he lives but

982
00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:44,099
he is uniquely positioned where if he

983
00:40:48,609 --> 00:40:46,380
goes out on his balcony he can literally

984
00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:48,619
see this exact area we're talking about

985
00:40:52,670 --> 00:40:51,780
and he filmed something that he sent to

986
00:40:58,430 --> 00:40:52,680
me

987
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:58,440
the online or I'm sorry his partner his

988
00:41:03,290 --> 00:40:59,760
girlfriend I believe it is I don't want

989
00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:03,300
to mess that up it's one of those

990
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:07,320
um she was able to basically go online

991
00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:10,680
see other people corroborating the

992
00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:12,660
evidence that he filmed

993
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:16,200
and in real time she was able to see

994
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,020
these things pull down off the internet

995
00:41:23,569 --> 00:41:21,359
oh man lost him again

996
00:41:26,510 --> 00:41:23,579
man this never happens when I'm talking

997
00:41:28,130 --> 00:41:26,520
to him Never As a matter of fact any and

998
00:41:29,930 --> 00:41:28,140
I'm not one to like to try to jump on

999
00:41:31,970 --> 00:41:29,940
radio shows and do interviews because I

1000
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:31,980
like to keep a low profile yeah I've

1001
00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:34,680
never had this problem again I'm not

1002
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:36,060
trying to be a conspiracy theorist who's

1003
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:37,200
saying oh they're listening to our

1004
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:38,880
conversation and we're we're you know

1005
00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:40,320
we're getting cut off on purpose I mean

1006
00:41:43,490 --> 00:41:41,820
who knows I doubt it that that could be

1007
00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:43,500
but the point is is this is another

1008
00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:45,960
synchronicity you know what I mean

1009
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:47,700
it's just weird that it's happening now

1010
00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:49,200
when we're talking about this but where

1011
00:41:52,370 --> 00:41:50,040
were we

1012
00:41:55,609 --> 00:41:52,380
um yeah basically their ability to clean

1013
00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:55,619
things up to scrub to disinform and I

1014
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:57,000
was just mentioning Scott got some

1015
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,800
footage right around the same time his

1016
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:00,480
girlfriend wife or partner I can't

1017
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:03,359
remember which went online saw other

1018
00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:06,180
people who were in real time commenting

1019
00:42:11,089 --> 00:42:08,820
that they also saw something when she

1020
00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:11,099
went to respond she started to notice

1021
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:13,320
that the internet literally right in

1022
00:42:18,829 --> 00:42:15,420
front of her these comments were being

1023
00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:18,839
removed the uh sightings posts were

1024
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:22,140
being taken down and so uh they reached

1025
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:24,079
out to me and they sent me the footage

1026
00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:27,839
we need to analyze this footage in

1027
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:30,300
comparison to what has landed in this

1028
00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:32,160
backyard because it is the same time

1029
00:42:37,970 --> 00:42:35,160
frame so to speak and I just think that

1030
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:37,980
the belief that people don't see these

1031
00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:40,560
things or that they don't believe it can

1032
00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:43,320
be cleaned up it it it's just it's just

1033
00:42:48,770 --> 00:42:45,420
easy to take that debunker skeptic

1034
00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:48,780
stance uh I've seen too much in my own

1035
00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:50,760
life and I know you have as well to

1036
00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:53,160
believe that this stuff doesn't happen

1037
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:55,800
exactly and I get it I mean I get that

1038
00:42:59,630 --> 00:42:57,660
there's houses out there and you know

1039
00:43:01,370 --> 00:42:59,640
what there's probably more uh I'll be

1040
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,380
I'm willing to say this

1041
00:43:06,109 --> 00:43:03,599
there's more probably more BS out there

1042
00:43:08,809 --> 00:43:06,119
than there is truth I get that but but

1043
00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:08,819
what I don't really appreciate is if if

1044
00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:11,099
you took 10 incidents that occurred

1045
00:43:15,770 --> 00:43:13,260
let's just say and let's say eight of

1046
00:43:17,809 --> 00:43:15,780
them were BS and two were legit you

1047
00:43:19,309 --> 00:43:17,819
you're gonna always have that guy or

1048
00:43:21,230 --> 00:43:19,319
that girl typically it's the guys

1049
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:21,240
because the guys tend to have more their

1050
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:23,160
egoses they need to pretend like they

1051
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:25,500
know everything uh they're gonna debunk

1052
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:27,180
every one of them whether they do

1053
00:43:30,349 --> 00:43:28,859
whether there's a whether it's a proper

1054
00:43:33,170 --> 00:43:30,359
debunking or not they're going to give

1055
00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:33,180
it their best shot and the reality is is

1056
00:43:37,849 --> 00:43:36,180
if a debunker can be right 80 or 90

1057
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:37,859
percent of the time

1058
00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:39,660
but they're going to be wrong 10 or 20

1059
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,400
percent of the time but in their mind

1060
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,440
they're never wrong so what you and I

1061
00:43:47,809 --> 00:43:45,119
are trying to do is to find that 10 or

1062
00:43:49,370 --> 00:43:47,819
20 I'm just using that as an example of

1063
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,380
what's true or we're trying to sit

1064
00:43:52,970 --> 00:43:51,119
through the BS to find what's real and

1065
00:43:54,530 --> 00:43:52,980
what's not now I wouldn't even bother

1066
00:43:55,970 --> 00:43:54,540
talking to you about this or doing a

1067
00:43:57,770 --> 00:43:55,980
wasting my time and some sort of

1068
00:43:59,809 --> 00:43:57,780
interview that we're doing right now if

1069
00:44:01,790 --> 00:43:59,819
I wasn't all in on this I just I'm not

1070
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:01,800
this I'm it's not my nature I don't want

1071
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,140
I don't need the attention I don't want

1072
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:06,240
the attention but this to me this is a

1073
00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:07,500
real story

1074
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:10,200
there are too many in my opinion I have

1075
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:11,520
to agree with you there's too many

1076
00:44:18,650 --> 00:44:15,359
synchronicities coincidences and pieces

1077
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,660
of the puzzle which seem to align around

1078
00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:20,880
the overall image of what took place

1079
00:44:24,430 --> 00:44:22,020
that night

1080
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:24,440
for there not to be something there

1081
00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:27,359
oftentimes you'll get a wild claim no

1082
00:44:31,849 --> 00:44:29,220
evidence to support it

1083
00:44:34,190 --> 00:44:31,859
here it's the exact opposite you have

1084
00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:34,200
the evidence to support it only problem

1085
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:36,119
is the majority of this evidence has

1086
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:40,400
been scrubbed or is being ignored by a

1087
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,160
huge faction of of I mean why why wasn't

1088
00:44:49,790 --> 00:44:46,319
this reported the next day the next the

1089
00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:49,800
same week even why 30 days lead we're

1090
00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:52,500
talking a month yeah very it's a very

1091
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:55,619
suspicious so yeah and here's the deal

1092
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:56,400
um

1093
00:45:00,290 --> 00:44:58,140
you know I understand the reality of

1094
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,300
this we we may not find the Smoking Gun

1095
00:45:04,250 --> 00:45:01,920
I'm going to try to find a Smoking Gun

1096
00:45:06,170 --> 00:45:04,260
I'm going to try to find it and I

1097
00:45:07,849 --> 00:45:06,180
understand that I may not find it but

1098
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:07,859
all whatever I can find whatever you

1099
00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:09,359
could find whatever I can find through

1100
00:45:12,890 --> 00:45:10,980
my sources we're going to put it all out

1101
00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:12,900
there and let the people decide for

1102
00:45:16,010 --> 00:45:14,700
themselves what they think happened but

1103
00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:16,020
right now there's not enough information

1104
00:45:20,270 --> 00:45:18,420
to people to analyze this story to make

1105
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:20,280
an intelligent decision and so we're

1106
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:21,839
trying to find the intelligent facts

1107
00:45:25,130 --> 00:45:23,940
about the about the incident and present

1108
00:45:26,690 --> 00:45:25,140
it to your audience and to the people

1109
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:26,700
that are going to listen so that they

1110
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:28,200
can just they can discern for themselves

1111
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:30,180
what they think might have happened and

1112
00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:31,920
so that's that's kind of my way of being

1113
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,380
the uh The Fighter for the experiencers

1114
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:36,960
the the real the people that are out

1115
00:45:41,690 --> 00:45:38,760
there that have had these experiences

1116
00:45:43,609 --> 00:45:41,700
that have to suffer in silence

1117
00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:43,619
you know I'm I'm kind of like that guy

1118
00:45:46,970 --> 00:45:45,060
I'm that guy that's trying to say hey

1119
00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:46,980
man don't talk trash about these people

1120
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:48,660
don't turn your back on these people

1121
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:52,200
don't laugh at these people because

1122
00:45:56,450 --> 00:45:54,480
many of them are telling the truth and

1123
00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:56,460
and I and I have deep empathy and

1124
00:46:00,050 --> 00:45:58,200
compassion for those people

1125
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:00,060
and I I think it's important to mention

1126
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:02,520
that some in the actual government

1127
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,040
themselves are starting to come forward

1128
00:46:10,730 --> 00:46:07,440
I mean on Monday the Former Intelligence

1129
00:46:14,030 --> 00:46:10,740
official David grosh had said that the

1130
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,040
government has a covert program focused

1131
00:46:19,370 --> 00:46:16,400
on recovering debris from crashed

1132
00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:19,380
non-human origin spacecraft and is

1133
00:46:22,670 --> 00:46:21,060
attempting to reverse engineer the

1134
00:46:24,770 --> 00:46:22,680
technology

1135
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,780
what are your thoughts of these

1136
00:46:34,190 --> 00:46:26,880
government whistleblowers coming out and

1137
00:46:39,770 --> 00:46:36,770
you know obviously you know Lou Elizondo

1138
00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:39,780
and the ttsp ttsa people kind of got the

1139
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:41,400
ball rolling you know you got bombed

1140
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,060
along initially uh I I'm not really

1141
00:46:49,970 --> 00:46:47,280
impressed with what happened with etsa

1142
00:46:52,250 --> 00:46:49,980
as a matter of fact and looking back I

1143
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,260
think the way that was all handled and

1144
00:46:58,609 --> 00:46:54,960
how it evolved after it was announced

1145
00:47:01,250 --> 00:46:58,619
has has actually done more to discredit

1146
00:47:03,770 --> 00:47:01,260
those people then to then to boost them

1147
00:47:05,390 --> 00:47:03,780
up into a standing of okay well hey

1148
00:47:07,609 --> 00:47:05,400
let's take let's listen to these people

1149
00:47:08,990 --> 00:47:07,619
you know what I mean however that was

1150
00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:09,000
handled it wasn't I don't think it was

1151
00:47:13,970 --> 00:47:11,339
handled very well but then of course uh

1152
00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:13,980
Lou Elizondo uh whether he was paid or

1153
00:47:16,730 --> 00:47:15,180
not or he was doing it all the goodness

1154
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:16,740
of his heart I don't know I don't really

1155
00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:19,440
care all I know is he was doing every

1156
00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:22,260
freaking radio show on planet Earth that

1157
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:25,020
I can possibly think of putting the

1158
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:26,520
message out there putting the word out

1159
00:47:32,210 --> 00:47:30,000
there taking the questions uh you know

1160
00:47:34,849 --> 00:47:32,220
you know there's people out there that

1161
00:47:37,550 --> 00:47:34,859
think that have a negative feeling on

1162
00:47:39,710 --> 00:47:37,560
them there's some that love this guy you

1163
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:39,720
know I don't know the man I'm neutral

1164
00:47:44,329 --> 00:47:42,180
okay I'm neutral but I but I do believe

1165
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:44,339
that a lot of what he says if not all of

1166
00:47:49,970 --> 00:47:47,940
what he says I believe is truthful now I

1167
00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:49,980
I don't know if there's an agenda behind

1168
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,560
this or if this or if we're being set up

1169
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:54,960
for something I know that Greer talked

1170
00:47:59,809 --> 00:47:57,599
about it I know that uh you know uh or

1171
00:48:02,030 --> 00:47:59,819
Carol rosin who worked with the Border

1172
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:02,040
Von Braun mentioned has mentioned many

1173
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:04,500
times in the past that she was warned

1174
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:06,900
and one day their final card will be the

1175
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,359
the fake Alien Invasion right and I'd

1176
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,520
even talked to somebody another one of

1177
00:48:14,930 --> 00:48:13,920
my sources who I asked him one time I

1178
00:48:16,970 --> 00:48:14,940
says you know what do you think about

1179
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:16,980
this fake Alien Invasion is this is this

1180
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:18,839
like is this just BS or could this

1181
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:21,000
happen and he says well I could tell you

1182
00:48:25,490 --> 00:48:22,319
this

1183
00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:25,500
um they have trains for it on two

1184
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:27,900
occasions and and the last time that

1185
00:48:31,609 --> 00:48:29,400
apparently according to what he said

1186
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:31,619
that there was a like a like a training

1187
00:48:37,150 --> 00:48:34,800
for it was in 2000 or 2001 or somewhere

1188
00:48:40,130 --> 00:48:37,160
in that time frame but to his knowledge

1189
00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:40,140
uh there has been no training for any

1190
00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:42,839
kind of an event like that since then so

1191
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,020
it's possible that at one point the

1192
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:48,000
people that were trying to if this is a

1193
00:48:52,250 --> 00:48:49,740
if this really was something that was on

1194
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,260
the table a fake Alien Invasion that

1195
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,240
they were trying to build a narrative

1196
00:48:58,970 --> 00:48:56,880
that would allow them to pull that off

1197
00:49:01,609 --> 00:48:58,980
and at some point for whatever reason

1198
00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:01,619
they took it off the table okay that's

1199
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:03,300
possible or

1200
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:05,160
it could be now that you've got John

1201
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:08,640
Ramirez out there and others uh talking

1202
00:49:12,050 --> 00:49:10,800
like we just talked about the rush or

1203
00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:12,060
grus I don't know how you pronounce the

1204
00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:15,540
last name exactly yeah and of course and

1205
00:49:20,450 --> 00:49:17,579
many others I mean you know they're

1206
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:20,460
testifying up there in Congress you know

1207
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,800
and closed doors and we don't know the

1208
00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:24,960
result of that now we got Arrow involved

1209
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:27,060
and NASA and they're going to do a

1210
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:29,280
report at the end of the summer uh John

1211
00:49:33,530 --> 00:49:31,440
Ramirez telling me this weekend at

1212
00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:33,540
contact in the desert uh sitting down at

1213
00:49:37,069 --> 00:49:35,880
a table I said you know I'm saying our

1214
00:49:41,089 --> 00:49:37,079
more whistleblower is going to come

1215
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:41,099
forward he says uh he believes so but

1216
00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:43,380
not till after disclosure and I said

1217
00:49:48,410 --> 00:49:45,180
what do you mean after disclosure I said

1218
00:49:50,089 --> 00:49:48,420
are you talking about like 26 27 when

1219
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:50,099
you suggested that we're going to have

1220
00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:52,560
uh well he didn't actually suggest but

1221
00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:54,540
kind of insinuated and he kind of

1222
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:56,339
backpedaled that there's some sort of

1223
00:50:00,890 --> 00:49:58,079
event that or something that's going to

1224
00:50:04,010 --> 00:50:00,900
be happening around 2027 I believe Chris

1225
00:50:07,130 --> 00:50:04,020
Bledsoe also indicated based on his

1226
00:50:09,650 --> 00:50:07,140
contacts and his experiences that he

1227
00:50:10,970 --> 00:50:09,660
believes something around 26 27. so

1228
00:50:12,829 --> 00:50:10,980
there's a there's a fact to the people

1229
00:50:14,450 --> 00:50:12,839
out there that are kind of on the heads

1230
00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:14,460
up that something may be going down

1231
00:50:19,609 --> 00:50:17,640
around 26 27. so so when I asked Ramirez

1232
00:50:22,730 --> 00:50:19,619
I said are you talking about like

1233
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,740
disclosure like you said 2627 no he says

1234
00:50:26,510 --> 00:50:24,480
no I'm talking about at the end of the

1235
00:50:29,089 --> 00:50:26,520
summer I go well what's what do you mean

1236
00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:29,099
at the end of the summer he I says as

1237
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:31,319
you mean arrow and NASA and then and

1238
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,700
whoever is working with these people

1239
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:35,040
there's going to be more information he

1240
00:50:38,089 --> 00:50:36,240
goes yes there's going to be more

1241
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:38,099
information that's going to come out and

1242
00:50:42,349 --> 00:50:39,900
then he says once that information comes

1243
00:50:44,510 --> 00:50:42,359
out if

1244
00:50:45,950 --> 00:50:44,520
the information I'm kind of paraphrasing

1245
00:50:47,630 --> 00:50:45,960
what he said right now so don't quote me

1246
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:47,640
directly on this but more or less what

1247
00:50:50,270 --> 00:50:48,960
he said is there's more whistleblowers

1248
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:50,280
that are waiting

1249
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,020
they want they want more people in other

1250
00:50:55,309 --> 00:50:54,000
words it's going to be a snowball deal I

1251
00:50:57,170 --> 00:50:55,319
think I think this guy is going to say

1252
00:50:58,970 --> 00:50:57,180
this this guy's going to say that and

1253
00:51:00,829 --> 00:50:58,980
then this guy suddenly is like okay fine

1254
00:51:03,650 --> 00:51:00,839
I'll I'll go ahead and say what I got to

1255
00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:03,660
say so as soon as soon as like right now

1256
00:51:07,970 --> 00:51:05,640
there's a leak in the dam

1257
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:07,980
there's definitely a leak in the dam and

1258
00:51:10,910 --> 00:51:09,119
they're trying to keep it from from

1259
00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:10,920
flooding into the into the consciousness

1260
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:13,140
of humanity and I think they're going to

1261
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,660
have a hard time with that now I at the

1262
00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:17,760
same token these same people that are

1263
00:51:21,410 --> 00:51:19,740
testifying that are trying to get as

1264
00:51:23,390 --> 00:51:21,420
much information that's that's that's

1265
00:51:25,490 --> 00:51:23,400
truthful information from their

1266
00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:25,500
experiences from their knowledge

1267
00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:28,380
directly not through hearsay

1268
00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:30,660
um that we could that we can make a

1269
00:51:35,930 --> 00:51:33,480
change now at the same time they say

1270
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:35,940
that the government they will just call

1271
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:38,160
it the government who whether whoever

1272
00:51:41,809 --> 00:51:39,180
you want to say is the government

1273
00:51:43,849 --> 00:51:41,819
whether it's the president or whoever

1274
00:51:46,910 --> 00:51:43,859
um they're never going to do full

1275
00:51:48,650 --> 00:51:46,920
disclosure some of these people a lot of

1276
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,660
them believe that no matter what we do

1277
00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:50,640
we we might move the needle

1278
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:52,200
substantially here in the next year or

1279
00:51:56,510 --> 00:51:54,660
two but they they still under the

1280
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,520
impression that we're never actually

1281
00:51:59,870 --> 00:51:58,559
going to see the bodies we're never

1282
00:52:01,970 --> 00:51:59,880
actually going to see the crash

1283
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:01,980
retrievals we're never going to have

1284
00:52:08,089 --> 00:52:05,400
direct verifiable evidence we're going

1285
00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:08,099
to continue to get testimony and stories

1286
00:52:13,069 --> 00:52:11,160
so you know in a court of law it depends

1287
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,079
on the the jury there you know there's

1288
00:52:16,609 --> 00:52:15,119
no a lot of people go to trial for

1289
00:52:17,390 --> 00:52:16,619
murder there's no evidence there's no

1290
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:17,400
gun

1291
00:52:21,890 --> 00:52:19,740
there's no knife there's no proof that

1292
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:21,900
the person was there so you get all the

1293
00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:23,400
testimony and then the judge and the

1294
00:52:26,990 --> 00:52:25,319
jury get to decide what they want to

1295
00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:27,000
believe is true or not and that's kind

1296
00:52:30,170 --> 00:52:28,440
of where we're at with this I mean we

1297
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:30,180
may never get the Smoking Gun but there

1298
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,700
may be enough uh testimony and other

1299
00:52:36,890 --> 00:52:34,559
evidence that could come forward that

1300
00:52:39,650 --> 00:52:36,900
would leave a reasonable person the

1301
00:52:43,250 --> 00:52:39,660
impression that we are not alone

1302
00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:43,260
and I think that reasonableness is you

1303
00:52:50,210 --> 00:52:47,160
know why we you and I decided to respond

1304
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:50,220
to this so fully because

1305
00:52:58,089 --> 00:52:53,520
you know it brings me back to the actual

1306
00:53:01,730 --> 00:52:58,099
event and in the video the um

1307
00:53:06,109 --> 00:53:01,740
the the Metro Police body cam footage is

1308
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,119
blacked out uh citing privacy laws now I

1309
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:08,880
know for a fact given one of my sources

1310
00:53:13,609 --> 00:53:11,280
that they did find Footprints in the

1311
00:53:17,089 --> 00:53:13,619
backyard and

1312
00:53:19,549 --> 00:53:17,099
one of the police officers was

1313
00:53:23,290 --> 00:53:19,559
questioning passengers who were circling

1314
00:53:27,290 --> 00:53:23,300
the area and you know they basically got

1315
00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:27,300
very similar descriptions that these

1316
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:28,680
things were big enough that they saw

1317
00:53:34,190 --> 00:53:31,200
them over the fence one witness

1318
00:53:36,290 --> 00:53:34,200
described that they saw something fall

1319
00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:36,300
out of the sky they saw something 10

1320
00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:38,700
feet tall in the backyard and you know a

1321
00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:40,260
lot of people have been using oh this

1322
00:53:43,849 --> 00:53:41,460
happened in a neighborhood why aren't

1323
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:43,859
they all over it they were all over it

1324
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,800
people did see this neighbors saw this

1325
00:53:52,250 --> 00:53:48,480
as you mentioned

1326
00:53:53,450 --> 00:53:52,260
um the the Metro Police inquiry that

1327
00:53:57,230 --> 00:53:53,460
produced

1328
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:57,240
quote unquote No conclusive conclusions

1329
00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:00,960
came back multiple times and

1330
00:54:06,290 --> 00:54:03,000
there's a reason they came back multiple

1331
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:06,300
times there was physical evidence to

1332
00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:09,000
this event what happens in your opinion

1333
00:54:12,770 --> 00:54:10,740
with this physical evidence that doesn't

1334
00:54:14,329 --> 00:54:12,780
make it to our neck of the woods do you

1335
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:14,339
think this is shot up the ladder to

1336
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:16,319
higher intelligence

1337
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:18,960
yeah there I mean uh

1338
00:54:23,329 --> 00:54:21,660
okay so there's uh I mean anybody that

1339
00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:23,339
that wants to research this this is not

1340
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:26,040
like a secret okay uh there's various

1341
00:54:29,809 --> 00:54:27,599
definitely uh various intelligence

1342
00:54:31,609 --> 00:54:29,819
agencies uh one I'll just name one

1343
00:54:34,190 --> 00:54:31,619
doesn't mean that they're the only one

1344
00:54:36,049 --> 00:54:34,200
but the office of special investigations

1345
00:54:39,049 --> 00:54:36,059
as an example

1346
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:39,059
um they they would uh gather they could

1347
00:54:44,329 --> 00:54:42,240
potentially do a re uh an investigation

1348
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:44,339
and a report let's just say that

1349
00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:46,319
potentially that that could be something

1350
00:54:51,829 --> 00:54:48,480
that they could do that's their job

1351
00:54:53,569 --> 00:54:51,839
whether it's aliens or something else I

1352
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,579
mean that's they're there for a purpose

1353
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:56,160
and then that information goes up the

1354
00:55:01,730 --> 00:54:59,520
ladder who it goes to exactly I I don't

1355
00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:01,740
know exactly who it goes to I can tell

1356
00:55:05,569 --> 00:55:03,480
you this some of my sources aren't even

1357
00:55:07,970 --> 00:55:05,579
sure exactly where it ends up but it

1358
00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:07,980
ends up somewhere at the top of the

1359
00:55:12,170 --> 00:55:10,260
pyramid and you know what I mean

1360
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:12,180
um and I don't really think that the

1361
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:13,680
president although the president is very

1362
00:55:16,970 --> 00:55:15,300
important obviously I don't know that he

1363
00:55:18,109 --> 00:55:16,980
I don't believe that he's the top of the

1364
00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:18,119
pyramid when it comes to what we're

1365
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,980
talking about right now

1366
00:55:24,770 --> 00:55:21,599
um I think there's other factions of

1367
00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:24,780
people of power and control uh John de

1368
00:55:28,970 --> 00:55:26,760
Souza calls in the uh the the elite

1369
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,980
powers in control however you want to

1370
00:55:34,849 --> 00:55:30,960
call these people the nameless and the

1371
00:55:37,849 --> 00:55:34,859
faceless for sure okay for good reason

1372
00:55:39,650 --> 00:55:37,859
um but yeah I mean it it it you know and

1373
00:55:41,150 --> 00:55:39,660
these peoples are professionals I mean

1374
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,160
they've been doing this for a long time

1375
00:55:47,450 --> 00:55:43,200
they've got a system

1376
00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:47,460
the system is flawless it's perfected

1377
00:55:51,470 --> 00:55:49,500
there's no there's no kinks in their

1378
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,480
armor there's no holes

1379
00:55:56,569 --> 00:55:53,520
so I mean you might get a guy here and

1380
00:55:59,329 --> 00:55:56,579
there that might have been had access

1381
00:56:01,849 --> 00:55:59,339
to this information or was a part of

1382
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:01,859
this system but because they're all

1383
00:56:06,170 --> 00:56:03,300
income they're all working in

1384
00:56:07,849 --> 00:56:06,180
compartmentalized situations they're no

1385
00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:07,859
one person is ever going to have access

1386
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:10,619
to all the information so if a guy comes

1387
00:56:14,809 --> 00:56:13,079
out and starts leaking information that

1388
00:56:17,809 --> 00:56:14,819
you can't even verify like this David

1389
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:17,819
Dave brush guy a lot of what he says I

1390
00:56:21,230 --> 00:56:19,200
doubt he's going to be able to prove

1391
00:56:22,790 --> 00:56:21,240
with any kind of documentation or

1392
00:56:25,490 --> 00:56:22,800
physical evidence of what he's telling

1393
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:25,500
us the truth okay I get that and I

1394
00:56:28,790 --> 00:56:27,420
understand that people can use that to

1395
00:56:30,770 --> 00:56:28,800
be skeptical and you know if that's what

1396
00:56:31,609 --> 00:56:30,780
they want to do that's their choice but

1397
00:56:34,609 --> 00:56:31,619
uh

1398
00:56:36,410 --> 00:56:34,619
but oh but ultimately let's let's get

1399
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,420
off that let's go back to the to the to

1400
00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:38,400
the to the landing so so you've got

1401
00:56:42,650 --> 00:56:41,400
Angel back there okay I guess he's with

1402
00:56:44,510 --> 00:56:42,660
his brother

1403
00:56:47,690 --> 00:56:44,520
they're working on the car

1404
00:56:49,849 --> 00:56:47,700
they they see this this light

1405
00:56:52,569 --> 00:56:49,859
comes down I think he described it as

1406
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:52,579
he's seen it kind of come down

1407
00:56:57,410 --> 00:56:56,640
red reddish green colors blue maybe I

1408
00:57:00,109 --> 00:56:57,420
forget

1409
00:57:05,089 --> 00:57:00,119
the colors that he described seeing

1410
00:57:11,450 --> 00:57:08,630
as it's actually getting to the ground

1411
00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:11,460
it became blurry now that his eyes

1412
00:57:16,970 --> 00:57:13,740
didn't become blurry but the area around

1413
00:57:19,970 --> 00:57:16,980
the object he said it got Dusty or it

1414
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:19,980
got Misty or it got blurry and and and

1415
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:23,520
then he saw red Sparks

1416
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,849
that that became kind of like frozen I

1417
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:30,480
don't I'm using my own words here I

1418
00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:31,920
don't think you use the word frozen I'm

1419
00:57:38,049 --> 00:57:34,020
not I don't remember but uh you know

1420
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:38,059
paralysis his legs became heavy he he he

1421
00:57:43,609 --> 00:57:41,520
was like in a trance mode I'm using that

1422
00:57:45,470 --> 00:57:43,619
word trance as my word I don't know if

1423
00:57:48,109 --> 00:57:45,480
he said that but this is how I imagine

1424
00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:48,119
what he's trying to describe is he was

1425
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:50,280
just kind of Frozen there and he

1426
00:57:56,089 --> 00:57:52,559
couldn't run

1427
00:57:59,210 --> 00:57:56,099
so then when Mr Papa interviewed him

1428
00:58:02,450 --> 00:57:59,220
that that the angel as he's describing

1429
00:58:05,450 --> 00:58:02,460
this to Mr Papa then from that point in

1430
00:58:07,549 --> 00:58:05,460
the conversation he jumps forward to I

1431
00:58:10,430 --> 00:58:07,559
then I ran in the house

1432
00:58:11,809 --> 00:58:10,440
so he I don't know if Mr plopper was

1433
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:11,819
able to follow up with more questions

1434
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,920
but we haven't heard the follow-up of

1435
00:58:18,349 --> 00:58:16,319
you know how long were here's would be

1436
00:58:19,970 --> 00:58:18,359
my questions Angel how long do you think

1437
00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:19,980
you were there

1438
00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:23,160
Frozen before you and then what what did

1439
00:58:27,230 --> 00:58:25,260
you see and at what point were you did

1440
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:27,240
you recognize that you could then move

1441
00:58:32,210 --> 00:58:30,480
because obviously at some point during

1442
00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:32,220
that little experience that he was

1443
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:35,460
having he was he snapped out of it or

1444
00:58:39,530 --> 00:58:36,720
something happened where then he was

1445
00:58:42,410 --> 00:58:39,540
able to move and run into the house

1446
00:58:44,510 --> 00:58:42,420
um you know so at that point uh I

1447
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:44,520
believed he had his brother saw the

1448
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:47,280
creature over there behind the forklift

1449
00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:50,400
or or whatever that uh that thing was

1450
00:58:56,270 --> 00:58:53,640
you know and then he said look over

1451
00:59:00,170 --> 00:58:56,280
there if I'm not mistaken Angel the the

1452
00:59:02,510 --> 00:59:00,180
boy looked over and he saw it uh so I

1453
00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:02,520
don't know how long that little how long

1454
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,220
they if they locked eyes or or again

1455
00:59:09,289 --> 00:59:07,440
there's there's still more to this story

1456
00:59:11,210 --> 00:59:09,299
that we have not uncovered yet but I

1457
00:59:13,250 --> 00:59:11,220
just know that this is the basic gist of

1458
00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:13,260
what he said and then you know I'm

1459
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:15,900
curious so so then Angel says he runs

1460
00:59:19,609 --> 00:59:17,520
into the house

1461
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:19,619
did the brother stay out there or did

1462
00:59:24,890 --> 00:59:22,079
the brother run in the house with them I

1463
00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:24,900
don't then we do see video okay

1464
00:59:30,170 --> 00:59:27,000
apparently I'm assuming this was after

1465
00:59:33,890 --> 00:59:30,180
the phone call the 9-1-1 call you see

1466
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:33,900
video of of I believe it's Angel his

1467
00:59:39,890 --> 00:59:36,720
brother and his dad and you don't see

1468
00:59:41,809 --> 00:59:39,900
the mother but you hear the mother and

1469
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:41,819
I'm gonna assume for now because I don't

1470
00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:43,680
know who was doing the filming but I'm

1471
00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:45,540
gonna I'm thinking it was probably the

1472
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:46,440
mother

1473
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:50,880
that was videotaping the boy her son and

1474
00:59:55,870 --> 00:59:53,280
and the father walking back towards the

1475
01:00:00,410 --> 00:59:55,880
back gate where towards the backyard

1476
01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:00,420
where this creature was and what now it

1477
01:00:04,609 --> 01:00:02,640
was in Spanish so I took that clip and I

1478
01:00:07,250 --> 01:00:04,619
sent it to you as about 14 or 15 seconds

1479
01:00:10,609 --> 01:00:07,260
and what was your interpretation of what

1480
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:10,619
she was saying at that time now they 100

1481
01:00:17,150 --> 01:00:14,579
percent in my opinion believed that they

1482
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:17,160
were in danger whoever was filming the

1483
01:00:21,890 --> 01:00:18,960
female voice believed that they were in

1484
01:00:24,530 --> 01:00:21,900
danger the guys were sort of trying to

1485
01:00:26,089 --> 01:00:24,540
uh you know nut up for lack of a better

1486
01:00:28,670 --> 01:00:26,099
word and get back there and see what's

1487
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,680
going on but

1488
01:00:34,609 --> 01:00:31,200
um from the from the back whoever was

1489
01:00:36,589 --> 01:00:34,619
filming uh again a female voice was more

1490
01:00:40,430 --> 01:00:36,599
or less warning them against it because

1491
01:00:43,549 --> 01:00:40,440
even she could see these creatures or

1492
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:43,559
entities and one of them uh appeared

1493
01:00:48,650 --> 01:00:46,079
that it was crossing the about to move

1494
01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:48,660
or cross from one part of the backyard

1495
01:00:54,770 --> 01:00:51,720
to the other there was movement

1496
01:00:57,770 --> 01:00:54,780
um the like you said the the the sound

1497
01:01:01,789 --> 01:00:57,780
of the voice it sounded very real to me

1498
01:01:04,010 --> 01:01:01,799
there was an 100 percent

1499
01:01:05,890 --> 01:01:04,020
um Terror in her voice you know did not

1500
01:01:08,809 --> 01:01:05,900
want them to get hurt

1501
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:08,819
and uh in my opinion yeah it was

1502
01:01:12,410 --> 01:01:11,040
crossing from one sec from one place to

1503
01:01:14,690 --> 01:01:12,420
another in the backyard it was on the

1504
01:01:16,609 --> 01:01:14,700
move she warned them against going back

1505
01:01:19,490 --> 01:01:16,619
there and I'm not so sure you know I'm

1506
01:01:21,470 --> 01:01:19,500
you and I we we go directly at these

1507
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:21,480
things I'm not so sure that you or I

1508
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:23,760
would have gone back there there was I

1509
01:01:26,450 --> 01:01:24,960
don't think I would have I mean you

1510
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:26,460
could see them approaching that back

1511
01:01:30,589 --> 01:01:27,920
gate that was open

1512
01:01:32,270 --> 01:01:30,599
uh they're they're almost like pause

1513
01:01:34,430 --> 01:01:32,280
they're not they're not going to walk

1514
01:01:36,770 --> 01:01:34,440
through that threshold they're just on

1515
01:01:38,930 --> 01:01:36,780
the on the house side of the of the gate

1516
01:01:40,970 --> 01:01:38,940
looking through you know with the with

1517
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:40,980
the gate open looking now there is a

1518
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:42,960
ring they're calling it a ring camera I

1519
01:01:47,329 --> 01:01:44,760
don't know if that's something that's

1520
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:47,339
that's on the door I I heard a report

1521
01:01:51,650 --> 01:01:49,920
that they've got a camera set up on the

1522
01:01:53,329 --> 01:01:51,660
door because they're to keep an eye on

1523
01:01:55,130 --> 01:01:53,339
the back property so that if there's any

1524
01:01:56,809 --> 01:01:55,140
criminals or whatnot Go I mean so

1525
01:01:59,530 --> 01:01:56,819
they've got a little security system so

1526
01:02:02,930 --> 01:01:59,540
some type of security camera

1527
01:02:06,349 --> 01:02:02,940
filmed something and they also they also

1528
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:06,359
had a camera in the backyard and where

1529
01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:09,359
it gets very interesting is they claim

1530
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:11,040
that that camera and I'm glad they

1531
01:02:15,170 --> 01:02:12,480
claimed this because this makes this

1532
01:02:17,809 --> 01:02:15,180
more believable in my opinion they claim

1533
01:02:20,690 --> 01:02:17,819
that that camera went down that that

1534
01:02:23,930 --> 01:02:20,700
camera no longer functioned once this

1535
01:02:27,289 --> 01:02:23,940
thing landed and that goes along with I

1536
01:02:29,569 --> 01:02:27,299
mean if this if these energies are able

1537
01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:29,579
to take a biological organism such as

1538
01:02:35,809 --> 01:02:31,740
Angel and his brother and literally put

1539
01:02:40,190 --> 01:02:35,819
them on stop pause mode and for lack of

1540
01:02:43,309 --> 01:02:40,200
a better word cloak themselves then why

1541
01:02:45,950 --> 01:02:43,319
would a electrified camera be that big

1542
01:02:48,109 --> 01:02:45,960
of a stretch and we run into this all

1543
01:02:50,329 --> 01:02:48,119
the time you and I in investigations

1544
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:50,339
where equipment goes down and everybody

1545
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:52,079
says oh yeah sure whatever you know

1546
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:55,440
uh-uh unlikely guess what it happens it

1547
01:03:00,170 --> 01:02:57,540
gets starts to get blurry if you get any

1548
01:03:02,930 --> 01:03:00,180
image at all and I don't doubt for a

1549
01:03:04,670 --> 01:03:02,940
minute what these people are saying is

1550
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:04,680
true they said that camera in the

1551
01:03:10,370 --> 01:03:08,040
backyard was a high-end camera and it

1552
01:03:13,250 --> 01:03:10,380
went down when this thing came into

1553
01:03:15,049 --> 01:03:13,260
their yard the camera was offline

1554
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:15,059
now I don't know if you've seen it yet

1555
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:16,799
but uh there there are some other

1556
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:19,200
researchers out there that have like

1557
01:03:23,809 --> 01:03:21,839
taken that that footage and they broke

1558
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:23,819
it the one where it shows

1559
01:03:30,049 --> 01:03:27,359
what appears to be now it's blurry

1560
01:03:31,549 --> 01:03:30,059
and the form of it it's not Beyond in

1561
01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:31,559
other words what they are trying to

1562
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:34,380
claim could this uh this is a video of

1563
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:35,760
the creatures what they're they're

1564
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:37,680
trying to claim it could be a video of

1565
01:03:41,210 --> 01:03:39,359
the creature there is not enough

1566
01:03:44,210 --> 01:03:41,220
evidence in the video for me to say oh

1567
01:03:46,430 --> 01:03:44,220
yeah that's definitely the creature but

1568
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:46,440
um when you look at the the what people

1569
01:03:51,289 --> 01:03:48,720
have done with that video it does appear

1570
01:03:54,170 --> 01:03:51,299
from the right side

1571
01:03:56,089 --> 01:03:54,180
this creature kind of puts his head out

1572
01:03:59,150 --> 01:03:56,099
and you can see it

1573
01:04:02,030 --> 01:03:59,160
and it kind of moves forward just just

1574
01:04:04,010 --> 01:04:02,040
ever so so a little bit right

1575
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:04,020
and then it looks like it dips back in

1576
01:04:09,650 --> 01:04:06,960
so it could be that what that ladies

1577
01:04:11,809 --> 01:04:09,660
that lady saw that with their own eyes

1578
01:04:13,309 --> 01:04:11,819
and that's when she was thinking that

1579
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,319
the thing was going to come out from the

1580
01:04:17,809 --> 01:04:15,839
right side and go across like it was

1581
01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:17,819
going to move across yeah it was

1582
01:04:23,450 --> 01:04:19,980
planning to move yeah you're planning a

1583
01:04:26,030 --> 01:04:23,460
move and then it looks like it then if

1584
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:26,040
it's if it's true if it really did if

1585
01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:27,599
that really was the creature on the

1586
01:04:32,690 --> 01:04:30,000
video then it's it's possible that the

1587
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:32,700
creature recognized that uh you know

1588
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:34,680
that's that it needs to just kind of

1589
01:04:38,329 --> 01:04:36,960
move back into hiding it appears as

1590
01:04:41,089 --> 01:04:38,339
though what's that's what's happening

1591
01:04:44,809 --> 01:04:41,099
now my next question would be

1592
01:04:47,030 --> 01:04:44,819
if I were able to talk to the people is

1593
01:04:50,450 --> 01:04:47,040
is at that point

1594
01:04:53,809 --> 01:04:50,460
did they actually go into the backyard

1595
01:04:55,609 --> 01:04:53,819
or did they just stop and not go into

1596
01:04:58,130 --> 01:04:55,619
the backyard because I would think they

1597
01:05:00,109 --> 01:04:58,140
probably didn't go into the backyard but

1598
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:00,119
if they did go into the backyard I want

1599
01:05:04,010 --> 01:05:02,160
to hear that story but look I kind of

1600
01:05:05,390 --> 01:05:04,020
doubt they did I think at that point the

1601
01:05:07,789 --> 01:05:05,400
mother realized that there's something

1602
01:05:10,010 --> 01:05:07,799
going on back there I think that the kid

1603
01:05:10,930 --> 01:05:10,020
and and the father they probably saw

1604
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:10,940
something

1605
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:13,440
I personally at that point wouldn't go

1606
01:05:17,569 --> 01:05:15,839
back there there's no way I would have

1607
01:05:19,789 --> 01:05:17,579
backed up and got and either gone back

1608
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:19,799
into the house or or stood back quite a

1609
01:05:24,589 --> 01:05:22,319
distance because it looks like in the

1610
01:05:26,210 --> 01:05:24,599
video where where they claim this

1611
01:05:28,069 --> 01:05:26,220
creature is kind of popping its head out

1612
01:05:30,170 --> 01:05:28,079
on the right hand side that wouldn't

1613
01:05:31,849 --> 01:05:30,180
have been more than about 20 feet or 30

1614
01:05:33,230 --> 01:05:31,859
feet away from where these people were

1615
01:05:36,170 --> 01:05:33,240
standing

1616
01:05:39,950 --> 01:05:36,180
that's right that's right we're talking

1617
01:05:42,530 --> 01:05:39,960
close and yeah very close if if these

1618
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:42,540
things are big enough I mean these these

1619
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:44,640
guys did not seem scared at all to me

1620
01:05:49,490 --> 01:05:47,760
they were gonna go in and it was you

1621
01:05:51,170 --> 01:05:49,500
know when they realized that what she

1622
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:51,180
was telling them was actually occurring

1623
01:05:54,770 --> 01:05:52,920
they realized like oh wait a minute yeah

1624
01:05:57,049 --> 01:05:54,780
this is not a good idea

1625
01:06:00,349 --> 01:05:57,059
and it brings me back to the camera

1626
01:06:02,930 --> 01:06:00,359
going down you know the fact for all we

1627
01:06:04,609 --> 01:06:02,940
know and I'm theorizing here for all we

1628
01:06:07,130 --> 01:06:04,619
know

1629
01:06:10,130 --> 01:06:07,140
there's there's more on that particular

1630
01:06:11,630 --> 01:06:10,140
camera than we are being told however I

1631
01:06:14,809 --> 01:06:11,640
don't doubt for a minute that the camera

1632
01:06:18,170 --> 01:06:14,819
went down for the majority of the what

1633
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:18,180
is it 20 minutes 18 20 minutes or so

1634
01:06:22,849 --> 01:06:19,920
yeah

1635
01:06:26,109 --> 01:06:22,859
um the question I hope to be able to ask

1636
01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:26,119
or find out and I think we will find out

1637
01:06:32,329 --> 01:06:29,520
pretty confident we will is if if any of

1638
01:06:35,809 --> 01:06:32,339
the cameras or the phones or the footage

1639
01:06:37,970 --> 01:06:35,819
or any of that was compensated

1640
01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:37,980
and that that brings a really good point

1641
01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:39,599
that brings a really good point because

1642
01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:42,000
it's very easy to classify this as a

1643
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:43,920
matter of National Security given that

1644
01:06:49,010 --> 01:06:47,039
the bases nearby the trajectory of The

1645
01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:49,020
Craft and how it all took place with law

1646
01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:50,400
enforcement

1647
01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:52,380
exactly

1648
01:06:57,950 --> 01:06:55,380
so uh so yeah there's this this is a

1649
01:06:59,329 --> 01:06:57,960
great to me it's a great story uh okay

1650
01:07:03,470 --> 01:06:59,339
here's what else I want to throw in

1651
01:07:06,829 --> 01:07:03,480
there uh is you know I'm an older man

1652
01:07:11,770 --> 01:07:06,839
I've experienced many cultures okay many

1653
01:07:15,650 --> 01:07:11,780
cultures uh whether it's uh Latino or or

1654
01:07:17,930 --> 01:07:15,660
Afro-American uh you know Asian

1655
01:07:19,730 --> 01:07:17,940
Caucasian I mean all of them I've had

1656
01:07:21,349 --> 01:07:19,740
many experiences with many cultures I

1657
01:07:25,010 --> 01:07:21,359
have a good feel

1658
01:07:27,069 --> 01:07:25,020
for culture so I it's my experience and

1659
01:07:30,109 --> 01:07:27,079
tell me what you think is my experience

1660
01:07:32,930 --> 01:07:30,119
typically in a if you're in a Latino

1661
01:07:35,569 --> 01:07:32,940
family okay you've got the whole family

1662
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:35,579
they're very close-knit people typically

1663
01:07:40,730 --> 01:07:37,920
and now we're in a neighborhood here

1664
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:40,740
this is not like the ghetto of Compton

1665
01:07:44,690 --> 01:07:42,720
here we're talking about in a middle to

1666
01:07:47,210 --> 01:07:44,700
upper middle class neighborhood high-end

1667
01:07:49,069 --> 01:07:47,220
high-end yeah high end I mean I'm I'm

1668
01:07:50,029 --> 01:07:49,079
going low end by saying middle to Upper

1669
01:07:52,370 --> 01:07:50,039
Middle I'm just I'm trying to be

1670
01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:52,380
conservative but for sure this property

1671
01:07:58,130 --> 01:07:54,839
that these people live on has high end

1672
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:58,140
value because it's a huge property it's

1673
01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:00,000
not a track home where you've got uh you

1674
01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,440
know one house here and then your

1675
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:03,359
neighbor's like 15 feet 10 feet away and

1676
01:08:06,049 --> 01:08:04,559
your other neighbor's 10 feet away and

1677
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:06,059
you got a neighbor behind you and a

1678
01:08:09,770 --> 01:08:07,920
neighbor in front of you it's it's not

1679
01:08:12,770 --> 01:08:09,780
set up like this this is kind of in an

1680
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:12,780
area of town where these these lots are

1681
01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:16,560
huge uh you know so uh so these and you

1682
01:08:21,769 --> 01:08:18,960
and these people they have to have some

1683
01:08:23,689 --> 01:08:21,779
success within their family or they they

1684
01:08:26,030 --> 01:08:23,699
wouldn't own the property nor have all

1685
01:08:29,390 --> 01:08:26,040
the vehicles and the equipment that they

1686
01:08:31,729 --> 01:08:29,400
have back there so this these are these

1687
01:08:34,189 --> 01:08:31,739
are not these are credible people these

1688
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:34,199
are not the kind of people that would

1689
01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:37,199
would have any need or reason or motive

1690
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,080
to do a hoax they would all have to

1691
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:43,199
agree together the mother the Father the

1692
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,759
Son the other son The Neighbors on one

1693
01:08:51,530 --> 01:08:49,679
side of the street The Neighbors on the

1694
01:08:54,349 --> 01:08:51,540
other side of the street they would all

1695
01:08:56,510 --> 01:08:54,359
have to get together and create some

1696
01:09:00,890 --> 01:08:56,520
story that they would all have to agree

1697
01:09:02,450 --> 01:09:00,900
on to make this a hoax and to me to

1698
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:02,460
think that that's what these people did

1699
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:06,239
is completely ridiculous no way no way

1700
01:09:11,450 --> 01:09:09,359
no how and I agree with you 100 these

1701
01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:11,460
people are successful in what they do

1702
01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:14,699
they're obviously very credible and as

1703
01:09:18,769 --> 01:09:16,500
you mentioned I mean just in vehicles

1704
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:18,779
and equipment in this yard there's a

1705
01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:20,880
fortune that's not even counting the

1706
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:22,920
high and real estate we're talking about

1707
01:09:28,669 --> 01:09:25,920
very well cared for home as well from

1708
01:09:31,729 --> 01:09:28,679
the front everything about this screams

1709
01:09:35,150 --> 01:09:31,739
legitimacy and I find it very

1710
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:35,160
interesting that the police officer

1711
01:09:42,169 --> 01:09:38,400
afterwards they circled the Block in

1712
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:42,179
their SUVs to ask people around the area

1713
01:09:47,390 --> 01:09:45,120
what they saw and all of it corroborated

1714
01:09:51,229 --> 01:09:47,400
what took place

1715
01:09:53,809 --> 01:09:51,239
so it it just goes to show that there's

1716
01:09:55,729 --> 01:09:53,819
there's a lot more to this everybody saw

1717
01:09:58,250 --> 01:09:55,739
something it wasn't I've seen a lot of

1718
01:10:00,290 --> 01:09:58,260
people online say oh you know this is in

1719
01:10:02,810 --> 01:10:00,300
the middle of a populated area where's

1720
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:02,820
the evidence nobody saw anything no they

1721
01:10:08,209 --> 01:10:05,760
had multiple eyewitnesses they took a

1722
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:08,219
majority of the evening taking down more

1723
01:10:16,370 --> 01:10:12,480
eyewitness reports and according to uh

1724
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:16,380
the investigation I did they had 650 to

1725
01:10:23,930 --> 01:10:19,679
800 reports recently not all around this

1726
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:23,940
particular event but recently 650 to 800

1727
01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:26,400
reports here in Las Vegas and they said

1728
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:28,020
that only two to five percent of them

1729
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:30,480
they get any evidence or any kind of

1730
01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:32,640
inkling of what took place so that'll

1731
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,800
give you an idea needle in a haystack is

1732
01:10:38,330 --> 01:10:36,480
exactly right

1733
01:10:42,050 --> 01:10:38,340
got two more points I want to bring up

1734
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,060
is uh no angel described

1735
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:44,880
um hearing the footprints all around him

1736
01:10:54,050 --> 01:10:52,430
um and then he also uh described if I'm

1737
01:10:55,970 --> 01:10:54,060
not mistaken or somebody within the

1738
01:10:58,669 --> 01:10:55,980
family described the hearing the hearing

1739
01:11:01,490 --> 01:10:58,679
footprints on the roof I I did hear that

1740
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:01,500
I heard that that that blew me away and

1741
01:11:04,970 --> 01:11:03,120
if you look at the type of ranch style

1742
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:04,980
house they have this is very possible

1743
01:11:10,370 --> 01:11:07,679
for an entity or a creature that big to

1744
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:10,380
quickly and easily gain access to the

1745
01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:12,480
rooftop and

1746
01:11:19,250 --> 01:11:15,480
um it's very strange all everything

1747
01:11:22,430 --> 01:11:19,260
points to them being there and doing

1748
01:11:23,570 --> 01:11:22,440
something I believe that there was some

1749
01:11:26,090 --> 01:11:23,580
kind of

1750
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:26,100
I don't know something took place in

1751
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,040
that yard that night I 100 percent

1752
01:11:33,950 --> 01:11:31,920
believe that other agencies as you've

1753
01:11:36,890 --> 01:11:33,960
mentioned have gone back and

1754
01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:36,900
investigated we know for a fact that Las

1755
01:11:42,649 --> 01:11:39,060
Vegas Metro has gone back multiple times

1756
01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:42,659
just imagine who else I know for a fact

1757
01:11:48,110 --> 01:11:44,760
they found Footprints and some physical

1758
01:11:51,530 --> 01:11:48,120
evidence of the entities in the backyard

1759
01:11:54,590 --> 01:11:51,540
so I I would hope that we can find some

1760
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,600
of that I don't know if we can but um I

1761
01:11:59,149 --> 01:11:55,920
think this is something we need to

1762
01:12:01,250 --> 01:11:59,159
revisit and attack again because there's

1763
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,260
so much here to unpack and I'm gonna

1764
01:12:05,450 --> 01:12:03,120
send you these two videos that Scott

1765
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:05,460
sent me and have you look them over

1766
01:12:08,510 --> 01:12:07,679
okay now before we wrap this up two more

1767
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,520
things

1768
01:12:13,010 --> 01:12:10,560
um the uh

1769
01:12:14,689 --> 01:12:13,020
what do you think how I want to say this

1770
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:14,699
um

1771
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,690
okay the blurry yeah the cloaking yeah

1772
01:12:25,550 --> 01:12:21,360
[Music]

1773
01:12:27,950 --> 01:12:25,560
oh you're cutting out again there we go

1774
01:12:31,850 --> 01:12:27,960
angel said the area that he was

1775
01:12:34,270 --> 01:12:31,860
observing this this object got blurry

1776
01:12:39,290 --> 01:12:34,280
now that's interesting to me because

1777
01:12:42,830 --> 01:12:39,300
people complain all the time oh why are

1778
01:12:46,669 --> 01:12:42,840
all these UFO videos so blurry or why is

1779
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:46,679
your Bigfoot picture so blurry this is a

1780
01:12:52,370 --> 01:12:49,679
this is been going on forever with these

1781
01:12:54,770 --> 01:12:52,380
blurry pictures why can't somebody get a

1782
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:54,780
good cell phone well maybe if people

1783
01:12:58,970 --> 01:12:56,400
would consider this

1784
01:13:02,090 --> 01:12:58,980
that there's something to do with either

1785
01:13:04,610 --> 01:13:02,100
the technology that these beings have or

1786
01:13:06,290 --> 01:13:04,620
something to do with the phenomenon or I

1787
01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:06,300
don't even really know the the physics

1788
01:13:10,669 --> 01:13:07,860
of all this or how this would all

1789
01:13:13,610 --> 01:13:10,679
transpire but there's something going on

1790
01:13:16,729 --> 01:13:13,620
there at this time and space that's

1791
01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:16,739
causing this blurriness to occur

1792
01:13:20,510 --> 01:13:18,719
it's not just because they've got bad

1793
01:13:23,090 --> 01:13:20,520
video cameras and they can't take a

1794
01:13:24,890 --> 01:13:23,100
clear picture it just it's just the way

1795
01:13:27,229 --> 01:13:24,900
these things work there's a pattern of

1796
01:13:28,910 --> 01:13:27,239
this blurriness thing happening so you

1797
01:13:31,910 --> 01:13:28,920
can't really to me you can't use that as

1798
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:31,920
a debunking to say oh that's blurry so

1799
01:13:35,090 --> 01:13:33,600
that this obviously it doesn't quite it

1800
01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:35,100
doesn't count you know what I'm saying

1801
01:13:43,490 --> 01:13:39,420
100 and Lou Elizondo I this was among

1802
01:13:45,050 --> 01:13:43,500
the five uh you know when in all yep

1803
01:13:46,370 --> 01:13:45,060
that's right everything that they saw

1804
01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:46,380
they said that there were five

1805
01:13:51,530 --> 01:13:49,560
similarities the um and the cloaking was

1806
01:13:54,050 --> 01:13:51,540
one of them there was a Hypersonic

1807
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:54,060
Hypersonic velocities without signatures

1808
01:13:59,570 --> 01:13:57,360
low observability or cloaking trans

1809
01:14:02,750 --> 01:13:59,580
medium travel sudden and instant

1810
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:02,760
acceleration and anti-gravity Lift Every

1811
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:05,520
case that they looked at had this blurry

1812
01:14:11,810 --> 01:14:07,679
or seemingly

1813
01:14:14,350 --> 01:14:11,820
able to cloak themselves from View and

1814
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:14,360
you know it makes you wonder this is

1815
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:17,820
makes radar operators and Navy fighter

1816
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:19,920
pilots pull their hair out but other

1817
01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,990
so we'll leave it on this note and this

1818
01:14:31,130 --> 01:14:28,800
is where this is why I'm coming to Vegas

1819
01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:31,140
one of the reasons well that's going to

1820
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:32,159
be awesome

1821
01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:33,840
yeah well one of the reasons the first

1822
01:14:38,689 --> 01:14:35,280
reason is to try to get further

1823
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:38,699
information that would be firsthand okay

1824
01:14:44,930 --> 01:14:41,760
the other reason would be that uh that

1825
01:14:47,689 --> 01:14:44,940
that according to Radar's report that I

1826
01:14:49,850 --> 01:14:47,699
was given that I can't substantiate or

1827
01:14:53,209 --> 01:14:49,860
approve but I'm just I trust my source

1828
01:14:55,729 --> 01:14:53,219
greatly uh that this object went in the

1829
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,739
direction of Lake Mead now this I'm

1830
01:14:59,930 --> 01:14:57,600
going to speculate right now this is I'm

1831
01:15:02,030 --> 01:14:59,940
not stating this is what happened I'm

1832
01:15:04,370 --> 01:15:02,040
not stating what I believe uh this is

1833
01:15:06,290 --> 01:15:04,380
what happened although it wouldn't be

1834
01:15:07,070 --> 01:15:06,300
surprising to me if what I'm about to

1835
01:15:10,610 --> 01:15:07,080
say

1836
01:15:12,250 --> 01:15:10,620
could it happen is that this vehicle

1837
01:15:17,209 --> 01:15:12,260
this craft

1838
01:15:18,830 --> 01:15:17,219
uh could have possibly gone in the in a

1839
01:15:20,330 --> 01:15:18,840
direction not too far from where it

1840
01:15:23,570 --> 01:15:20,340
initially landed in these people's

1841
01:15:26,450 --> 01:15:23,580
backyard to another location in in Las

1842
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:26,460
Vegas Nevada not too far away and either

1843
01:15:34,610 --> 01:15:31,440
landed again or crashed or was taken

1844
01:15:37,370 --> 01:15:34,620
down now the reason why I speculate that

1845
01:15:40,370 --> 01:15:37,380
this is a possibility is again this is

1846
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:40,380
hearsay uh Witnesses or some people that

1847
01:15:45,530 --> 01:15:43,920
I've been able to contact uh are not

1848
01:15:48,350 --> 01:15:45,540
saying that this is what happened but

1849
01:15:50,649 --> 01:15:48,360
they suspect based on what they observed

1850
01:15:52,250 --> 01:15:50,659
in their neighborhood

1851
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:52,260
happening

1852
01:15:59,330 --> 01:15:55,040
after the event occurred at the house

1853
01:16:01,010 --> 01:15:59,340
that something else was going on so when

1854
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:01,020
you and I get together we're going to go

1855
01:16:05,090 --> 01:16:03,120
out to that area and we're going to see

1856
01:16:07,250 --> 01:16:05,100
if we could see anything or pick up on

1857
01:16:09,290 --> 01:16:07,260
anything or see any evidence or anything

1858
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,300
that might have been left behind that

1859
01:16:14,450 --> 01:16:11,760
would indicate that maybe something like

1860
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:14,460
you know a crash retrieval or a landing

1861
01:16:19,250 --> 01:16:17,040
or something along that lines occurred

1862
01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:19,260
if it's possible it didn't it's possible

1863
01:16:22,669 --> 01:16:21,420
this object just lifted off went over

1864
01:16:24,229 --> 01:16:22,679
the mountains and that was the end of

1865
01:16:25,729 --> 01:16:24,239
the story but that's why I'm coming out

1866
01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:25,739
there because I want to see I don't want

1867
01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:28,080
to leave any Stones Unturned on this and

1868
01:16:32,270 --> 01:16:29,940
I agree there's from what you told me

1869
01:16:36,110 --> 01:16:32,280
before there is corroborating evidence

1870
01:16:38,330 --> 01:16:36,120
placing it in that direction and yeah

1871
01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:38,340
man we will get out there and we will

1872
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:42,360
leave no stone unturned and uh what are

1873
01:16:46,910 --> 01:16:45,120
your thoughts of a possible Uso scenario

1874
01:16:49,310 --> 01:16:46,920
here do you think that's possible that

1875
01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:49,320
it actually went into the lake

1876
01:16:51,950 --> 01:16:51,060
that's you know what that's a great

1877
01:16:54,530 --> 01:16:51,960
question

1878
01:16:56,030 --> 01:16:54,540
that would be uh sure why not you know I

1879
01:17:01,310 --> 01:16:56,040
I mean

1880
01:17:02,990 --> 01:17:01,320
but again we're not I realize as we're

1881
01:17:05,810 --> 01:17:03,000
talking about this and it's very

1882
01:17:07,910 --> 01:17:05,820
interesting story obviously that uh you

1883
01:17:10,010 --> 01:17:07,920
know we may not be able to prove any of

1884
01:17:11,810 --> 01:17:10,020
this stuff but uh when you've when

1885
01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:11,820
you've been following this this topic

1886
01:17:17,570 --> 01:17:14,400
and these stories like this for have

1887
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:17,580
been going on for so many years I mean I

1888
01:17:22,010 --> 01:17:19,679
can't I could not even stop to count how

1889
01:17:25,010 --> 01:17:22,020
many times I've heard stories like this

1890
01:17:28,130 --> 01:17:25,020
the the patterns and the similarities

1891
01:17:31,310 --> 01:17:28,140
line up with classic stories of the past

1892
01:17:33,050 --> 01:17:31,320
that indicate that there's a possibility

1893
01:17:34,729 --> 01:17:33,060
that some of what we're discussing

1894
01:17:36,590 --> 01:17:34,739
actually happened the way we're

1895
01:17:38,330 --> 01:17:36,600
describing it but again we may not be

1896
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:38,340
able to prove it but we're going to try

1897
01:17:42,169 --> 01:17:40,800
and I'd like to point out before we we

1898
01:17:44,330 --> 01:17:42,179
stop

1899
01:17:47,149 --> 01:17:44,340
um that the federal government has spent

1900
01:17:51,649 --> 01:17:47,159
22 million researching invisibility

1901
01:17:54,910 --> 01:17:51,659
cloaks UFOs and the like and that was

1902
01:17:57,530 --> 01:17:54,920
through of course ASAP and atip which

1903
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:57,540
interestingly enough have connections to

1904
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,199
Vegas so what are your thoughts of uh

1905
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:03,120
this sighting being in the top 10 for

1906
01:18:14,330 --> 01:18:11,390
but it's an object it's an object lens

1907
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:14,340
and creatures get out and they're seen

1908
01:18:19,430 --> 01:18:17,040
by more than one person multiple people

1909
01:18:21,229 --> 01:18:19,440
I don't know how to get it I mean it

1910
01:18:22,669 --> 01:18:21,239
can't get much better than that so I

1911
01:18:24,290 --> 01:18:22,679
mean like I said I don't know I might

1912
01:18:26,270 --> 01:18:24,300
have said early on in our interview here

1913
01:18:27,649 --> 01:18:26,280
that uh you know I get goosebumps

1914
01:18:29,390 --> 01:18:27,659
because I don't really want to get

1915
01:18:30,770 --> 01:18:29,400
excited to be quite Frank I don't really

1916
01:18:33,229 --> 01:18:30,780
want to get excited about any of this

1917
01:18:36,350 --> 01:18:33,239
anymore unless it's really really strong

1918
01:18:38,570 --> 01:18:36,360
or good a good evidence or a good or or

1919
01:18:40,729 --> 01:18:38,580
what appears to be a very legitimate

1920
01:18:43,310 --> 01:18:40,739
story and right now this has all the

1921
01:18:45,050 --> 01:18:43,320
earmarks of all of that so I I'm not

1922
01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:45,060
going to get off my butt and drive eight

1923
01:18:49,970 --> 01:18:47,760
hours and 100 degrees you know and go

1924
01:18:52,250 --> 01:18:49,980
jump in a hotel for a couple nights and

1925
01:18:53,930 --> 01:18:52,260
spend my own money and I'm not writing a

1926
01:18:56,270 --> 01:18:53,940
book I'm not I don't have a YouTube

1927
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:56,280
channel I'm not getting sponsors no

1928
01:19:00,530 --> 01:18:59,040
one's giving me any money I mean if it's

1929
01:19:01,790 --> 01:19:00,540
somebody you know somebody wanted to

1930
01:19:04,250 --> 01:19:01,800
give me some money I'd take it but I'm

1931
01:19:05,689 --> 01:19:04,260
not asking for anything so so no one

1932
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:05,699
could ever say oh you're just doing it

1933
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:07,199
for fame or you're doing it for money

1934
01:19:12,290 --> 01:19:10,560
you're no no no and no because I'm not

1935
01:19:14,330 --> 01:19:12,300
and they can't prove that I am because

1936
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,340
I'm telling you right now I just want to

1937
01:19:18,050 --> 01:19:16,320
know and I'm going to go try to find out

1938
01:19:19,610 --> 01:19:18,060
and I think I'm pretty good at it and I

1939
01:19:20,810 --> 01:19:19,620
know you are too and that's why you and

1940
01:19:22,729 --> 01:19:20,820
I are going to hook up and we're going

1941
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:22,739
to see what we can do it's going to be

1942
01:19:27,050 --> 01:19:24,719
great we'll continue the study into this

1943
01:19:29,450 --> 01:19:27,060
and uh thanks so much for taking time

1944
01:19:31,250 --> 01:19:29,460
out of your busy day Eric I look forward

1945
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:31,260
to talking to you soon

1946
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:33,120
okay buddy have a good day we'll talk to

1947
01:19:36,050 --> 01:19:34,320
you soon

1948
01:19:38,750 --> 01:19:36,060
well there you have it ladies and

1949
01:19:40,850 --> 01:19:38,760
gentlemen Eric The Awakening man one of

1950
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:40,860
the most hardcore researchers I've had

1951
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:43,199
the blessing of coming across and

1952
01:19:48,350 --> 01:19:46,080
someone who I'm blessed to uh be able to

1953
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:48,360
research with he's coming out here to

1954
01:19:52,130 --> 01:19:49,679
Las Vegas

1955
01:19:55,070 --> 01:19:52,140
we are going in the direction of Lake

1956
01:19:56,930 --> 01:19:55,080
Mead and yeah we're gonna gas the boat

1957
01:20:01,070 --> 01:19:56,940
up we're gonna get out there we're gonna

1958
01:20:03,649 --> 01:20:01,080
scour the uh shorelines and we are going

1959
01:20:06,410 --> 01:20:03,659
to see if there is any evidence of some

1960
01:20:09,649 --> 01:20:06,420
of the corroborating stories we've heard

1961
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:09,659
about the trajectory of this craft and a

1962
01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:12,719
possible military presence in and around

1963
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:14,820
the lake so

1964
01:20:19,850 --> 01:20:17,280
um I've probably said too much already I

1965
01:20:23,570 --> 01:20:19,860
hope Eric doesn't mind me saying that

1966
01:20:25,010 --> 01:20:23,580
but he is definitely a jewel in a gem

1967
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,020
when it comes to a friend and a

1968
01:20:29,689 --> 01:20:27,360
researcher stay tuned for a possible

1969
01:20:32,510 --> 01:20:29,699
part two of this episode and until next

1970
01:20:34,910 --> 01:20:32,520
time keep your eyes to the skies feet on

1971
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:34,920
the ground but don't forget to take a

1972
01:20:38,159 --> 01:20:42,610
I

1973
01:20:46,610 --> 01:20:44,689
don't know